Whispers Packers could release number of veterans

68md
Member Topic Starter

14 years ago

Reported at the beginning of summer :
Whispers

Our sources in Green Bay would not be shocked if the team released a sizable number of familiar veterans this offseason. Included on the list of potential casualties is eighth-year TE Donald Lee, who is now looking up at Jermichael Finley on the depth chart; sixth-year LB Brady Poppinga, whose pass-rush shortcomings could prove to be his undoing; fifth-year CB-S Jarrett Bush; and fourth-year OT Allen Barbre. We also hear it's almost a given that one of the team's three fullbacks (John Kuhn, Korey Hall or Quinn Johnson) will be sent packing.

Does this all hold true or have things changed here at the end of summer ?

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bozz_2006
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14 years ago

I've felt that all of these guys will probably get the boot.

beast
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14 years ago

Isn't this an older rumor? Ether way, my guesses are...

Staying
LB Brady Poppinga (who's going to beat him out for a back-up OLB position?)
TE Donald Lee (Quarless is a raw rookie, Havner is injured... I'm kind of hoping they keep four TEs for a year)

Going
CB Jarrett Bush (Underwood, Lee and Bell knock him off)
OT Allen Barbre (Bulaga was added and that's what knocks him off)
FB Hall (if he can't stay healthy)
FB Kuhn (if Hall can stay healthy)

Dexter_Sinister
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14 years ago

No one on that list would surprise me. I would also be surprised if we didn't keep an extra TE or Fullback. Maybe Ted Thompson doesn't want to lose the QB Harrell like we lost Brohm.
This happens every year. Guys that could never turn the corner get released. Ted Thompson may want to let them go early to give them a chance to find a new team. Rather than keep veterans around for extra camp bodies.

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68md
Member Topic Starter

14 years ago

"beast" wrote:

It is.. just wondering how peoples opinions have changed over the summer. Only a few days until camp ! :thumbleft:

Greg C.
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14 years ago

I think beast has it right. Lee's experience will be needed, even though he is overpaid to be the #2 guy. Poppinga is also paid a lot for a backup. He could possibly be sent packing if a young guy steps up in training camp, but I think he sticks.

Does anyone think it's possible that Quinn Johnson could get cut? I know he's young and has a lot of potential, but what if Kuhn and Hall both outperform him in camp? I don't think it's out of the question. Johnson needs to take that next step and become a legitimate option at fullback. Last year he had some good moments but seemed inconsistent and not as versatile as the other guys. It will be interesting to watch him in training camp this summer.

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beast
Select Member

14 years ago

Poppinga is also paid a lot for a backup. He could possibly be sent packing if a young guy steps up in training camp, but I think he sticks.

"Greg C." wrote:

With Matthews and Jones starting, I think their are two open back-up OLB spots. I think two of the young guys (Obiozor, Russell and/or Zombo) would have to step it up to knock out Poppinga. I think one will... but not two... but that's just my guess.

Does anyone think it's possible that Quinn Johnson could get cut?

"Greg C." wrote:

I'm thinking "Not a chance", but it is possible... but I think it's unlikely.

Your right Kuhn and Hall both outperform him last year, both showing a LOT more versatile. But the think is Johnson KILLED IT at run blocking between the tackles. Now out side the tackles he was a little more shaky and didn't look that good in the pass game. BUT he killed it at run blocking. He could be the Packers short yardage running game by making holes... I'm tired of seeing 2nd and short or short and short and a hand off the Grant to lose a half yard. Only to see Rodgers pick up the first down or touchdown on a QB sneak. I think Johnson could solve that issue. Keeps the QB safer and picks up the hard yards... I think that would be worth a spot. But that's just my opinion.

porky88
Veteran Member

14 years ago

It's a non capped year, so the salary guys make probably doesn't factor in like it used too. Poppinga is not going anywhere. He's a core special teams player and you can't improve the special teams by cutting one of the best players. Bush vs. Bell is another example of a situation that comes down to special teams. Bush gets a lot of flack for coverage skills, but he's the best gunner the team has. Yes, I remember the play in the NFC Championship game, but he was in position, which is something the Packers strive for.

IF I had to guess, I'd say Allen Barbre gets the boot along with one of the FBs. My guess is Korey Hall. I also think Daryn College could be dealt if he loses out to Spitz or Lang.

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beast
Select Member

14 years ago

the salary guys make probably doesn't factor in

"porky88" wrote:

Your right... as long as the Packers have been under the salary cap Thompson hasn't cut guys because of salary. He's paid Bubba and Kabeer their huge money as back-ups until they stop preforming well.

Bush vs. Bell is another example of a situation that comes down to special teams. Bush gets a lot of flack for coverage skills, but he's the best gunner the team has.

"porky88" wrote:

I agree it will come down to STs. And I agree Bush WAS the best gunner on the team. That was until the Packers added Martin and Bell. IMO both were better gunners than Bush last year. Now Bush had a down year at gunner compared to some of his other years at gunner... so we'll see if he can bounce back, but I think he was the 3rd best gunner by the end of the year. (and 2nd best for most of the year as Bell was added late).

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

14 years ago

#10

I think we keep five TE and FB in some combination. 2 FB, 3 TE, or maybe 3 FB and 2 TE.

I think we'll see...

Hall or Kuhn
Johnson

Finley
Havner
Quarless

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