Starting Oline?· Page 2

beast
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14 years ago

#11

Why do most think Colledge is going to lose his starting spot?

I don't think he's going anywhere

BjRaji=DEFMVP
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14 years ago

#12

he hasnt played well these past 2 years

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Greg C.
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14 years ago

#13

Why do most think Colledge is going to lose his starting spot?

"beast" wrote:

He's never competed head-to-head with Spitz, and most people think Spitz is a better player. The coaches have already indicated that Colledge and Spitz will be competing with each other for the left guard position.

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beast
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14 years ago

#14

Why do most think Colledge is going to lose his starting spot?

"Greg C." wrote:

"beast" wrote:

he hasnt played well these past 2 years

"BjRaji=DEFMVP" wrote:

Both of you are mistaken and incorrect. Let's use what really happened...

When Sitton was drafted in 2008, he came in he beat out Spitz for the starting RG spot his rookie year during the preseason, the coaches then moved Spitz to LG where Spitz beat out College... then Sitton got injured before the first game and they moved Spitz back to RG and Colledge back to LG.

That same season (2008) Colledge had his break out year and played better than any of the other guy on the OL. Which is the reason come 2009 Wells, Spitz and Sitton were the ones battling for position in the preseason and not Colledge. Colledge didn't play well in 2009, because he didn't have to compete for it... Colledge does better when he's not locked in and has to compete for it, so Mike McCarthy telling him he has to compete for his job is the best thing Mike McCarthy could of done for him... also who know if Spitz will be 100% after a back injury, lets hope so.

Greg C.
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14 years ago

#15

Thanks for the history lesson, beast. I had forgotten the details of how that all played out. I think the most important point is that Spitz has been considered worthy of a starting position on the OL for each of the last four seasons, while Colledge has been shaky at times. And the one time they competed head-to-head, Spitz beat him out. So my money is on Spitz if he stays healthy.

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warhawk
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14 years ago

#16

The problem with Colledge is inconsistency and that will be the thing the coaches will be most concerned about with him.

The guy plays well at times but like in the Arizona game, at a crucial time, he gets beat on the inside and ends up with the holding call that eventually got them beat.

I think Wells has proven himself and has the communication down that really started the OL comeback along with getting healthy. I think that's good because it free's up Spitz to move over and he will make fewer mistakes than Colledge IMO.

I could see Colledge starting out there but looking over his shoulder at Spitz as he gets healthy. I really don't see them pushing Spitz early and letting him come along and when Colledge pulls his crap they install Spitz.

This is the deepest the OL has been in a long time. Back when they were one of the best OL's you had to hold your breath because there was nobody behind those guys.

"The train is leaving the station."

beast
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14 years ago

#17

Thanks for the history lesson, beast. I had forgotten the details of how that all played out.

"Greg C." wrote:

I did it mainly for the Colledge hasn't played well the last 2 years... as he played very well in 2008. Sorry if it sounded a bit mean....

Spitz has been considered worthy of a starting position on the OL for each of the last four seasons, while Colledge has been shaky at times.

"Greg C." wrote:

They both have considered worthy of a starting position on the OL for each of the last four years.

The problem with Colledge is inconsistency.

"warhawk" wrote:

He's very inconsistency... at times he's the worse at other times he's the best... but when Mike McCarthy said he's going to have to compete for his job that told him he's going to have to battle for his position... and Colledge has always come out very strong when he has had to battle for a starting spot...

Barbre was rumorly suppose to take his position but he battled back and improved, Spitz took his spot he battled back and showed as the best OL that year....

When someone pushes him he gets better than them... and Mike McCarthy pushed him when he said he's going to have to battle for his spot with Spitz...

I think he'll be the best he's been because of that...

I think Wells has proven himself and has the communication down that really started the OL comeback along with getting healthy.

"warhawk" wrote:

I think the OL comeback had more with health with Tausher, Clifton and Colledge coming back and getting healthy... but Wells did look more aggressive in the run game after he got benched and came back... I think both Wells and Colledge need to be pushed and maybe Clifton as Clifton sometimes doesn't seem to try to run block at times...

DakotaT
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14 years ago

#18

Baluga, Newhouse, Wells, Sitton, Lang

Next year and beyond, with Wells' replacement drafted next season.

I have no clue how this year's line will shake out, but what I do know is that there are going to be players pissed about playing time, and with good reason. Clifton and Tauscher were signed to very good deals in comparison to their age and they will not be riding pine.

It appears Uncle Ted has finally given the Oline it's due attention, but then Baluga fell into his lap didn't he?

And one more thing, any game this season that we have a comfortable lead in the second half; Clifton, Taush, and Colledge need to be yanked to give the young guys PT.

warhawk
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14 years ago

#19

"DakotaT" wrote:

As long as they yank Rodgers with them. The thing is with injuries we may see some in there before they are really ready. I am hoping Clifton and Tauscher can get through the first half of the season. At least by then these other guys will be a little more ready to go.

I don't know when but it's highly unlikely this OL goes through the season without one or two going down somewhere along the way.

"The train is leaving the station."

PackerTraxx
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14 years ago

#20

Spitz's back remains a question mark. I'd like to not have to count on him this year, so he can really heal and strengthen his back. So I'll go with -Cliffy, Colledge, Wells, Sitton and Tausch. Colledge seems to play better when he consentrates on one postion.

For the future I'll go with - Bulaga, Newhouse, Spitz or ? , Sitton, Lang. Sorta like Dakota.

Also agree with Dakota the we need to put teams away to get young players playing time - to see if they can really play, get experience, rest the starters and lower the injury risk to the starters(ecspecially Cliffy and Tausch), .

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