You're fighting a losing battle here Rockmolder. You are way too objective to discuss politics.

There is no room for objectiveness in politics. If you're a Republican, you are supposed to think that Obama is the dumbest human alive, and he he hates America. If you are a Democrat, you think Obama is the second coming of Jesus Christ. There is no middle ground.

This is why you rarely/never see me participate in political discussions. Its kind of pointless.

"IronMan" wrote:

Our nation has its sins...as every nation does. No need to flaunt them while completely ignoring the many GREAT things that country has afforded the world....like affording Europe, until recently, to play welfare state because America has been providing the majority military deterrent for the continent.

"digsthepack" wrote:

The following comment was recently submitted for Grapevine: "What a travesty that President Obama, who is the commander-in-chief, is going to skip going to Arlington National Cemetery on Memorial Day. I mean, what an outrage. What a slap in the face to everyone who has served in our military that he would rather go to Chicago for the weekend than go to Arlington National Cemetery. Every president has gone to Arlington National Cemetery and for this president not to do it is just a travesty, just an outrage."

This kind of statement that is designed to evoke the same emotion in readers --self-righteous indignation. And if every word in that commentary was true, it might deserve at least a little bit of outrage. But skeptic that I am, I had to find out how much of it, if any, was true.

Here's what I found out.

It's true that President Obama is planning to spend the holiday weekend in Chicago, where he is scheduled to honor America's fallen heroes with a speech at Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery near Chicago.

Vice President Joe Biden will take his traditional place at Arlington.

However, he is far from the first president to be absent from the Arlington ceremony.

President Ronald Reagan skipped Arlington on Memorial Day on four of his eight years in office, sending various substitutes in his place.

President H.W. Bush, who was a World War II veteran, did not attend the Arlington Cemetery ceremony at all while he was president; he spent three of them vacationing in Kennebunkport, Maine, while Vice President Dan Quayle laid the wreath.

And President George W. Bush was out of the country on Memorial Day 2002.

Given this information, it is clear President Obama not only is not the first to break with tradition, but is, in fact, following in the footsteps of some of his more recent Republican predecessors.

President Clinton, a Democrat, is the only president in three decades who never missed a Memorial Day wreath-laying at Arlington.

Save your outrage for something else President Obama has done (or failed to do) -- or bestow it equally on all the presidents who broke with this time-honored tradition, including Reagan, Bush and Bush.

How the heck do you figure he is spitting in the face of the military by attending the Lincoln Cemetery vs Arlington? He is still going to speak and honor our fine men and women?

He is doing what most Americans do on the holiday.. visit family and friends.. how totally Un-American.

Some forget that Bush didn't let the worst natural disaster to strike the United States interrupt his vacation.. where is the criticism for that in this thread?

Hammer him for his administrative failures/missteps.. but I fail to see changing the venue as that outrageous.


History proves that many skipped the tradition.. even Reagan for half his term. Another Un-American?

http://www.delmarvanow.com/article/20100528/OPINION01/5280329 

I caught that RP but i let him slide because he is from down under lol. But its not that holy to some as they stated its just another military cemetery :(

"dhazer" wrote: