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DakotaT
14 years ago



I have been Ted's #1 defender on this forum.



Number 1

"vikesrule" wrote:



I've always thought of you as #2.

"dfosterf" wrote:



Truly a "Cheesey" analogy. I've come to expect more from you.

And I would say Warhawk is the #1 defender of the faith.
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dfosterf
14 years ago



I have been Ted's #1 defender on this forum.



Number 1

"DakotaT" wrote:



I've always thought of you as #2.

"vikesrule" wrote:



Truly a "Cheesey" analogy. I've come to expect more from you.

And I would say Warhawk is the #1 defender of the faith.

"dfosterf" wrote:



Well, no doubt Warhawk is up there, but if he goes past me he is just being a homer.

lol

If Ted has Okung, Bulaga, Campbell, Davis, Williams or Brown available at 23 and doesn't take ANY one of them, he is NUTS.


NUTS

If you are not THRILLED that one of them fell to us, you are NUTS too, imo... KILLS me that some say, "Oh, I don't LIKE so and so because...yada yada yada"
beast
14 years ago

He has failed to produce as a GM.

"dfosterf" wrote:



Yes because he the team sucks... they only made the playoffs...

If he doesn't recognize the priority, he should be replaced.

"dfosterf" wrote:



Yes he's so dumb, he wouldn't recognize a priority that the rest of the NFL, including the stupid people in the media have recognized.

The Green Bay Packers should be "known" for their o-line, if any team should.

"dfosterf" wrote:



I'm not sure why that is... I'm guessing that's just an opinion. But I'd let another team but known for it to win a couple of superbowls...
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djcubez
14 years ago
Bah quit being salty foster lol. Everyone knows our line needs work, but to call for Thompson's head? A little early buddy 😉

Thompson hasn't even had any opportunity to fix our terrible line from last year so your complaint just doesn't make sense unless you felt the same way 1 or more months ago.
porky88
14 years ago
I'm going to assume this thread was posted just to make the forum a little more lively. You don't fire a guy who oversees the franchise over one position. Let's get that out of the way.

The Packers have a problem along the offensive line, but they're solid in a lot of other areas because of Ted Thompson. Five years ago, the idea of Favre retiring or leaving meant the Packers were going to be a joke much like they were in the 70s and 80s. That's not the case now because Thompson drafted a replacement in Aaron Rodgers, who by all accounts is the real deal.

If you were to poll scouts around the league and ask them to name one of the most talented young teams in football, Green Bay is near the top of the list. Thompson is apart of the reason why. That in itself can't be ignored. He's made mistakes, but every GM does. I heard a quote that Ron Wolf said if you're batting 300 as a GM, you're doing a good job. That's 30% of your decisions going well. I don't think we're to take him literally by that number, but it does illustrate that not every decision will be good. Every GM will have Justin Harrells and Marquand Manuels.

The foundation of this team is heading in the right direction. I wrote about that before. I'm confident in this team more than I've been in along time. I disagree so much with the idea that GB is closer to being bad than good. I find that statement ridiculous. They're already good for once. 11 wins in the NFL is not easy. Not many teams can consistently do that.

Bad is Detroit, St. Louis, Buffalo, Oakland, Kansas City etc....

Green Bay is closer to Dallas than those teams.

As far as the offensive line goes. The offensive line is not bad. The tackles are bad. That's the problem. Green Bay has some interior guys.

Josh Sitton is going to be a very good guard in the NFL. He's solid in all areas. Always in the right position and probably the best guard this team has had since Mike Wahle. Scott Wells is a center you can get by with. He's not great, but he's definitely workable. He isn't going to lose you a lot of games. Jason Spitz at left guard works. He's solid there. Other teams have tried to trade for him in the past actually. I wouldn't be shocked to see him sign as an RFA this year. I don't think it'll happen because of the 2nd round tender, but wouldn't rule it out.

My point is they have the interior guys. Two of those are Thompson draft picks. I think they're in position to finally set something up long-term at guard.

If you think Green Bay is going to sit on their hands and not address tackle via the draft, then perhaps you have some beef, but I highly doubt that will happen. I think the Packers are going to draft a LT with one of their first two picks. That tackle will likely compete with Chad Clifton or a free agent signing.

I think T.J. Lang is set in stone as the right tackle next season. Based on what I've read, Lang is who they want for that position and I think Lang is capable of getting the job done.

That's the tackle outlook next year. The improvement from the younger guys and hopefully Aaron Rodgers getting rid of the ball faster will go along ways in improving the offensive line and the offense as a whole.
isocleas2
14 years ago
It would take a major major failure of a season for Ted and Mike to be shown the door next year imo.

I also disagree with the premise that we're closer to being a bad team than a good team. I think we're actually very close. Our defense is missing one more pass rusher and assuming Harris is done one more standout corner.

The defense is really just missing a couple tackles and possibly a good #2 RB.

If we could draft/sign a solid LT, and then clone Grant, Tramon Williams, and Clay Mathews I think we'd have a superbowl contender.
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Why do we still have this o-line coach? He can't coach them. Why are we constantly drafting under 310 lb linemen? They can't block for us.

"dfosterf" wrote:


Mike McCarthy does the hiring and firing of the assistant coaching staff, not tt.
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British
14 years ago
I'd be interested to see a comparison with other OLines. It seems nearly all the best ones have guys picked up from all over the place and plugged in alongside higher draft picks and pro bowlers.

Our own cast off (forgotten his name) wound up playing in the Superbowl this year protecting Payton Manning.

The Steelers won a Superbowl with a notoriously bad OLine which received a lot of criticism.

Very few appear to be completely filled with young, rising, solid players. Most seem to be a mish-mash of ageing verterans on their last legs, undrafted free agents and failed Tackles-turned-Guard type guys.

The more I think about it the more I feel comfortable with 4 of our 5 spots. Left Tackle is the gaping wound right now which needs adressing.
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dfosterf
14 years ago
This is kind of fun. Dhazer has been on to something, conversation-wise. :thumbleft:
Rockmolder
14 years ago

This is kind of fun. Dhazer has been on to something, conversation-wise. :thumbleft:

"dfosterf" wrote:



We need more Dhazer. He's been absent way too much as of late. He's supposed to make these threads.
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
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