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Pack93z
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14 years ago

Last time I checked.. the goal is not to "only" have a great offense.. the goal was to win games and most notably the Super Bowl.

I don't need the stats to tell me the Packers offensive line is at very best average at times.. and at worst (see early 09) one of the poorer lines in the game. One could use the sacks stats from last year to support that but instead I will go with what I see.

And late in games, when we can't take the ball and ram it down someones throat to seal a game.. yes I have a problem with it.

We yearly we come out struggling in protection reads and execution.. yes I have an issue with it.

When we struggle yearly to run the ball consistently and in short yardage.. yes I have a problem with it.

Point is.. IMO, we have a Achilles heal on this football team.. and that is consistency on the oline.

And it shows up around the playoffs.. you have to be able to win in all facets of football.. because someplace along the line you are going to have to lean on one area or another.. not to mention protect your franchise in the QB position.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Cheesey
Preferred Member

14 years ago

#42

Dickey had no mobility. His legs were shot. So i don't remember if the O-line was that bad, or if it was partially his inability to move out of the pocket. I DO remember a snowy game where the D couldn't get to him, and he just picked them apart.
When he had time, Dickey was great.

dfosterf
Veteran Member Topic Starter

14 years ago

#43

Btw, who blew their assignment(s) on that blitz that ended our season?

Did Rodgers not pick up on it? I really don't remember looking.

Everyone was so busy fighting about the facemask/non-facemask that I never heard about it.

Pack93z
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14 years ago

#44

Being that no one laid a hand on him and everyone else was manned up on the right.. I would say it was a miss by Rodgers on the pre-snap adjustments... he came clean if I remember correctly.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

dfosterf
Veteran Member Topic Starter

14 years ago

#45

Being that no one laid a hand on him and everyone else was manned up on the right.. I would say it was a miss by Rodgers on the pre-snap adjustments... he came clean if I remember correctly.

"pack93z" wrote:

That's what I thought. Five sacks in that game, btw. I only bring that up because everyone has already brought up the defensive failures.

IronMan
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#46

"dfosterf" wrote:

Matt Bowen and LeRoy Butler thought it was on Rodgers.

Matt Bowen

The play that won the game for the Cardinals was your basic nickel man pressure. But I still think Rodgers could have recognized the pressure and gotten rid of the football. Arizona blitzed nickel back Mike Adams off the slot, with the strong safety dropping down into coverage to replace him. The Packers, who had four receivers aligned away from the formation, motioned the RB weak to create an empty set leaving five to block the Cards five rushers. For Rogers, you know pressure is coming when you see the safety walk down before the snap and with five receivers out; you have to unload the football. A tough way to end an impressive game for Rodgers, but still a mistake that gets you beat in the postseason.

Five questions with LeRoy

Q: How, in your view, did the final play break down? What did you see and what would have been a better outcome?

A: Aaron Rodgers has a three-step drop and Aaron has to get rid of the ball. After three steps, he sees the blitz with Adams, and he has to get rid of it, take a sack or throw it away. Line up and live another day.

Trippster
Registered

14 years ago

#47

Being that no one laid a hand on him and everyone else was manned up on the right.. I would say it was a miss by Rodgers on the pre-snap adjustments... he came clean if I remember correctly.

"pack93z" wrote:

bingo, and I recall him stating that exact fact. It was on him. he didnt audible the protection.

"Let Your Light Shine!"

Cheesey
Preferred Member

14 years ago

#48

He will learn from his mistake. It was his first shot at the playoffs.

longtimefan
Registered

14 years ago

#49

It just amazes me that Ted Thompson, widely regarded amongst his peers based on comments I have read over the years, is still brutalized by fans. Is he perfect? Nope....which GM is??!?

Unlike so many of his peers who have appeased fans and their own ego by signng big name FAs in hope of the quick fix, and whose signings have often lead to horrible cap situations, Ted Thompson has this team poised to be HIGHLY competitive for years to come, and in good cap shape.

Were you by chance screaming for Haynesworth last year? Careful what you wish for......

He does need to address the LT and possibly LG this year in the draft, and hopefully sign Clifton and Tauscher for one more year. That said, we have Sitton (widely recognized as being on the cusp of becoming something special), Lang (who will probably be our RT of the future and who showed well for a youngster), Spitz (when healthy a very decent player) and Colledge (who has been very erratic, but some of it due to changes on either side of him). The core of a really good line is here with Wells included....just need to get that LT of the future in the draft....and possibly a LG later to compete.

"dfosterf" wrote:

I have been Ted's #1 defender on this forum.

Number 1

"digsthepack" wrote:

Ahem? Thought I was?

Sorry getting to this topic late...

But I do hear you and know what your coming from..

The O-L is part of this team that really has suffered..All other parts Ted touched have performed good, or great..

I do agree the O-L HAS to be addressed and FIXED, either by adding new guys or changing coaches ( I do think Zero makes a valid point)

But to dismiss Ted because of it? not so sure I go that far..That is if he mixes it up and ATTEMPT to fix the issues

Stevetarded
Registered

14 years ago

#50

Without Barbre in there the line isn't as absolutely dreadful as some of you are making it seem. It's lucky that Rodgers didn't get hurt but I have no doubt that he learned a lot about being a QB this year that he couldn't have learned in any other situation. He will be better for it.

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TheKanataThrilla (2h) : That was terrible.

TheKanataThrilla (2h) : Watching that game in its entirety yesterday is proof positive that I am a football addict.

beast (2h) : And horrible time management multiple times... and not being able to score more than 3 points on a team with talent

beast (2h) : Realizing the Bears didn't fix it from the previous week and do the same thing, getting the game to overtime

beast (2h) : They probably are not tanking, but they've absolutely mismanagement some things, such as Vikings seeing the Packers blocked FG and realizing

Zero2Cool (3h) : Crazy of Bears to have that mindset that is

Zero2Cool (3h) : Hail Mary stop away from 5 - 2. Not sure how that flips to tanking. Crazy mindset if true

beast (4h) : I've quietly questioned if Bears are tanking on purpose... they suddenly got a lot worse with some simple concepts like 101 clock management

wpr (6h) : Watching bares fans melt down over how putrid their team is, so enjoyable. It's the gift that keeps on giving.

Mucky Tundra (13h) : The Seattle Seahawks defeat the Chicago Bears 6-3. Jason Myers had 6 RBIs for Seattle while Cairo Santos had 3 RBI for Chicago

beast (14h) : Not nessarily, he might of been injured either way. He's playing about 50% of the games the last 4 years

Zero2Cool (21h) : If they'd been more patient with him, he'd be back already. Putting him out there vs Bears caused him to tweak it and here we are.

packerfanoutwest (21h) : well this is his last season with the PAck, book it

beast (22h) : Sounds like no Alexander (again), I'm wondering if his time with the Packers is done

Zero2Cool (26-Dec) : Could ban beast and I still don't think anyone catches him.

Mucky Tundra (26-Dec) : Houston getting dog walked by Baltimore

packerfanoutwest (25-Dec) : Feliz Navidad!

Zero2Cool (25-Dec) : Merry Christmas!

beast (25-Dec) : Merry Christmas 🎄🎁

beast (24-Dec) : Sounds like no serious injuries from the Saints game and Jacobs and Watson should play in the Vikings game

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : both games Watson missed, Packers won

Martha Careful (24-Dec) : I hope all of you have a Merry Christmas!

Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol

buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : Jacobs was just sat down, Watson re-injured that knee that kept him out 1 game earlier

buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : I needed .14 that's. .14 points for the whole 4th quarter to win and go to the SB. Lol

Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Jacobs gonna be OK???

Zero2Cool (24-Dec) : Watson gonna be OK???

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network

beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th

beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno

beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?

packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I see what you did there Mucky

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