blueleopard
14 years ago

For all the bitching that goes on here, people on this site seem to consistently forget that this team is only two years removed from an NFC Championship appearance and a turnover away from making it to the second round last year.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



We had a different quarterback and a 4-3 defense two (now three) years ago.
Danreb Victorio A Believer of Greg Jennings
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Nice little read RP and I wouldn't expect anything different from you. You have always been a Ted Thompson backer, but I am still a basher as my avatar shows. I still don't think he can give us the guy to put us over the top.

"blueleopard" wrote:



One opportunity he misseed is not pulling the trigger on the Moss trade. Had we had Moss I see no way the Giants would have beaten us. It would have opened up our running and short passing game. I believe it cost us a Lombardi Trophy. Hopefully he learned from that.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



The Raiders did not give the Packers an opportunity to match or sweeten the Patriots offer, therefore the Packers had no chance.

The Packers made an offer, the Raiders were considering it, then the Patriots came in with a better offer and the Raiders had to take it or leave it. They could have risked the Packers backing out, then the Patriots retracking their offer and being stuck with Moss then having to cut him.

The Raiders simply got a better offer and didn't want to mess around and took it right away.

And Moss would not have made a difference. Our WR were hardly the problem in '07.

"PackerTraxx" wrote:



Hardly the problem, yes.

But Moss still would've made the team better. As good as Jennings and Driver were, what about Moss, Jennings, and then Driver?

Not to mention the defense was making plays left and right.

Put Moss on the 2007 Packers, and I'm sure the Patriots would not have gone undefeated, and Tom Brady wouldn't throw 50 TD's. In fact, Favre probably wouldn't have finished 2nd in MVP voting and a 2nd Super Bowl ring.

I know anything can happen in the NFL, but I'm 100% positive that would be the result. Favre + Moss would generate more NFL hype than Brady + Moss.

"dhazer" wrote:



I'm surprised anyone still thinks Moss would have made any difference. Look at the games we lost. Explain how Moss would have been the difference. You can choose Regular Season or Post Season.

We need to face that Moss was ripped out from under us and he would not have made a difference.

Not landing Moss was a blessing. He would not have made a difference in a positive fashion. His being on the team could have persuaded Brett to not retire, which would have put another year on the bench for Aaron, maybe more and maybe we even lose Aaron.

My head aches just from the thoughts of the possible downfalls that would have transpired if we landed Moss. Maybe we don't even have Jordy Nelson then? Maybe we land some stud OLB and then don't trade up for Mathews?

Who knows, but it's obvious Moss wouldn't have made a difference in our '07 season. Even if we had made it to the Super Bowl, the Patriots would have rolled us. We had no pass rush.

Edit, dammit I didn't even address some of your specific comments. Yes, Favre/Moss > Brady/Moss ... Yes Favre gets 4th MVP... absolutely NOT a second Super Bowl ring though, no chance of it because the Giants would have STILL beat us. Does it really matter who you have at WR if your QB is chasing around for his life.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
I guess people think that Moss would somehow have been able to magically pull down the duck that Favre threw in Driver's general direction. 😉
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14 years ago
Do we know that Moss was willing to play in GB? I thought it was discovered that they were playing the Packers to get a deal out of NE. His goal all along was to play with the Patriots.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Do we know that Moss was willing to play in GB? I thought it was discovered that they were playing the Packers to get a deal out of NE. His goal all along was to play with the Patriots.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



The Packers pissed Moss off with telling him that it was Driver's WR team or something like that and said he had to be on his best behavior, etc ... things of that nature. That upset Moss, per what he said.

I think Moss can be a tool at times, but I was looking forward to the Packers landing him. From a business standpoint, I can clearly understand why the Raiders pulled the trigger to the Patriots when they did instead of trying to use the Packers vs Patriots charade to bid against one another.
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14 years ago

I guess people think that Moss would somehow have been able to magically pull down the duck that Favre threw in Driver's general direction. ;)

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



I watched that game again brother, and believe me that throw wasn't any prettier umpteenth time around.

Moss wouldn't have equalled a win on that night. To be honest, it was a nasty, tough, son of a bitch of a game played in extreme weather that was destined to be as tight as it was.

It was a bonehead throw. I do agree with the Play action deep playcall though.
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dhazer
14 years ago
btw what year is this in TT's 5 year plan? I still think we need an impact FA pickup to put us over the top. I see us getting to the 2nd round and then getting knocked out by the 49ers in SF
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

btw what year is this in Ted Thompson's 5 year plan? I still think we need an impact FA pickup to put us over the top. I see us getting to the 2nd round and then getting knocked out by the 49ers in SF

"dhazer" wrote:



That's so easy to say, but who? What major Free Agent did the Packers have a chance at landing that would constitute as a "impact" free agent to put us over the top? Are we one player away from being over the top? Who? What position?

I'm not asking to 'stump' you, I'm asking because I am curious. I can not recall a single impact free agent where we had a financial hope of signing. Just because there's no salary cap, that doesn't mean we can spend any amount of money.

What position do we need? OLB? SS?

Which free agents were out there that we could have landed?
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porky88
14 years ago
I would argue and there really is no counter argument, but Charles Woodson is the second greatest free agent signing in Packer history. While I would like to see the front office get more aggressive, there philosophy has worked and there is no denying it. The onus is now on the coaches and players IMO.
dhazer
14 years ago
Merriman would have been nice, maybe even making a move on the cb in oakland ( not even going to attempt to spell his name) Brian Dawkins would have been nice last year to name a few guys that were and actually i believe still are.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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