Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
Sure she was drunk, but he was probably drunk too. I'm so thankful that the ABA is starting to consider proposing changes to the laws that would allow for the existence of consensual sex when both parties are drunk. It's ridiculous that the law assumes a woman can't consent to sex while intoxicated but somehow a man can have retain the power to choose while intoxicated.

I wonder if he'll be prosecuted for purveying alcohol to a minor. That I would have no problem with.
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15 years ago

Did he really have to show up to the press conference disguised as a rapist? Is a haircut too much to ask?

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"MassPackersFan" wrote:



I think he got the message..

http://twitter.com/Rachel__Nichols 

# @skjensen Indeed it is. He is even wearing a suit. 14 minutes ago via web in reply to skjensen

# I wouldn't say it's quite a buzz cut, but it's short all over. (And that's about as far as my hair expertise goes) RT @Anoophater All over? 34 minutes ago via OpenBeak

# Ben Roethlisberger has entered the NFL offices for his meeting with Roger Goodell - and here's the scoop: he cut his hair.




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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago

The student told police she had been sexually assaulted, but medical results were less clear. A doctor who examined her at a nearby emergency room found a cut, bruises and vaginal bleeding but could not say if she was raped. And while some DNA was found, there was not enough to determine whom it belonged to, Bright said.



So in other words, she may have fallen down in the bathroom, she could have been on her period, and someone in the area probably coughed on her.

You have to realize, PCR can amplify even minuscule quantities of DNA. I cannot begin to fathom how infinitesimally small the sample of DNA must have been if they were not able to get any results from it whatsoever. Assuming it did in fact come from her vagina, it could have been from the saliva of some guy who ate her out a week prior -- or even the dirty hands of the woman who last touched the toilet paper before her. Had Roethlisberger's dick so much as brushed against her, much less penetrated her, enough skin would have been scraped off to get a definitive DNA match.

Therefore, even had this woman testified on the stand, I doubt there would have been sufficient evidence to convict Roethlisberger.

But I'm sure safely ensconced in her bank account is enough cash to fund her binge drinking habits for the next few years.
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
Speaking of which, Ben, your taste in women sucks worse than Tiger's:

http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/Andrea_McNulty1(5).jpg  (Unfortunately, this forum software can't show images that have parens in the URL.)

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Millions of dollars a year and these losers can't get a decent-looking woman to sleep with them? I'm broke and I have better luck!

Preserving anonymity of accusers is bullshit, by the way. If you're going to have the temerity to make a charge like this, one that can ruin someone's life forever, you damn well should have to take public responsibility for it. If only to reduce the chances of liars making bogus charges. FBI estimates that 60% to 80% of all sexual assault allegations are spurious. That's atrocious.
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doddpower
15 years ago
lol, geeez. Big Ben looks so . . . well . . . big and dumb. lol
dfosterf
15 years ago
I don't know what I would do if I was in charge regarding Ben.


I think he is probably guilty of quite a bit of the shit he is accused of...



I could be wrong, I just don't think so.



Based on the info that I have seen, this is a toughie, and I think I have seen just about all there is in the public domain. This one is tight....decision and fairness-wise. I truly lean towards the powers- that- be need a little more of the fire to add to the smoke...

If he is guilty of some of this shit thus far, and still not "technically caught" he is far luckier off the field than on it, and that is saying something.
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
I think it would be interesting to see Roethlisberger get cut. There seems to be a lot of dissatisfaction with him in Steeler Nation. While I don't think he sexually assaulted her (that term has been stretched way out of proportion these days, in my opinion), I think he certainly was guilty of stupidity bordering on criminal. Certainly purveying alcohol to minors is unacceptable for someone in his position, though he could probably make the plausible argument that it's not his fault the bars let an underage woman on the promises. The problem for Roethlisberger is that he's made himself an attractive target. I predict more accusations will surface, simply because each time it happens, the charge gains plausibility and it becomes easier to wring money out of him, regardless of how much evidence there is. The same thing has happened to Tiger: the flies smell rotting meat, and they're flocking in to lay their eggs.
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dfosterf
15 years ago

I think it would be interesting to see Roethlisberger get cut. There seems to be a lot of dissatisfaction with him in Steeler Nation. While I don't think he sexually assaulted her (that term has been stretched way out of proportion these days, in my opinion), I think he certainly was guilty of stupidity bordering on criminal. Certainly purveying alcohol to minors is unacceptable for someone in his position, though he could probably make the plausible argument that it's not his fault the bars let an underage woman on the promises. The problem for Roethlisberger is that he's made himself an attractive target. I predict more accusations will surface, simply because each time it happens, the charge gains plausibility and it becomes easier to wring money out of him, regardless of how much evidence there is. The same thing has happened to Tiger: the flies smell rotting meat, and they're flocking in to lay their eggs.

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How much target we got here, comparative to how much asshole we got here...that is the huge question.

I'd be thrilled to see his ass cut if he is just one very fine red pubic hair more provably guilty than what I see now. If he is a full-fledged course black hair more provably guilty, he should have been charged---I strongly suspect that circumstances allowed him to just barely "get away with it". I have no proof of that. Proof is tough to come by this time around. Again- the smoke and fire thing comes into play-- Like I have tried to say, this one is so very tight.

As far as Steeler Nation goes...they are like the rest of the nation. Pretty much knee-jerk reactionary in nature, with a short attention-span, coupled with a large dose of homerism, sprinkled with a skewed over-estimation of their own sense of right and wrong- just like most of us. I can only go with my own set of perceptive skills, with my own set of prejudices, just like those folks, only different. :thumbleft:
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago

Updated: April 19, 2010, 7:38 PM ET
Goodell: Roethlisberger violated policy 

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell says Ben Roethlisberger has violated the NFL's personal conduct policy but would not confirm reports on when he will announce discipline for the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback, he said on the syndicated "Dan Patrick Show" on Monday.

Asked by Patrick whether there has been a violation of the NFL's personal conduct policy, Goodell replied, "Yes, there has been a violation of that."

"The issue here is with respect to a pattern of behavior and bad judgments," Goodell said on Patrick's radio program. "You do not have to be convicted or even charged of a crime to be able to demonstrate that you've violated a personal conduct policy, and reflect poorly not only on themselves, but all of their teammates, every NFL player in the league and everyone associated with the NFL. And that is what my concern is, and I have expressed that directly to Ben, obviously, and I will be making a decision as soon as I possibly can."

Last week, prosecutors in Georgia declined to charge Roethlisberger after a college student accused him of sexual assault in March. Goodell could still fine and/or suspend Roethlisberger under the league's personal conduct policy. Even if he is suspended, the quarterback could practice and take part in preseason games.

Goodell is likely to issue Roethlisberger a conditional suspension -- the same approach he took in disciplining Michael Vick following Vick's release from prison and return to football -- a source familiar with Goodell's options told ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen. The source could not define the length of the penalty Goodell is considering.

Under the conditions being considered, the league would monitor Roethlisberger's behavior once the suspension begins, as well as recommendations from clinical specialists who are expected to evaluate whether Roethlisberger requires counseling and random testing for substance abuse, the source said. The league also could use the period of the conditional suspension to determine whether there is any prior conduct by the quarterback that merits stronger disciplinary action.

Goodell told "The Dan Patrick Show" that he needed time to review all the facts in the case. "Obviously there are disputes about the facts that occurred that night, but that is something that we take very seriously, and our players should not put themselves in those positions," he said.

Yahoo! Sports reported that a suspension was expected to be announced Monday or Tuesday. But a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter that the league will not discipline Roethlisberger on Monday. The source said he would be "very surprised" if the discipline were announced Tuesday.

When asked on "The Dan Patrick Show" about reports that a decision could be announced Monday or Tuesday, Goodell would not commit to a timeline. "I make the decision when I have all the information and I'm prepared to do so," he said.

Team president Art Rooney II says the Steelers are ready to punish the quarterback.

Goodell's original timetable, as related to Rooney, was based on the expectation the league would not have full access to the investigative files until this week, sources told Mortensen. But last week's release of the investigation data by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation has allowed Goodell, NFL security chief Milt Ahlerich and NFL legal counsel to analyze the information.

In 2009, Goodell issued Vick a six-game conditional suspension that was reduced to two games by the start of the season. Vick returned to football after serving a federal prison sentence for financing a dogfighting ring in Virginia.

Roethlisberger also is being sued by a different woman who says he raped her in 2008 at a Lake Tahoe hotel-casino. Roethlisberger denies the accusation and was not criminally charged in that case. He has claimed counterdamages in a lawsuit.

On Monday, Roethlisberger took part in the Steelers' first day of voluntary on-field practices. He also participated in off-the-field conditioning work for several days last week.

Multiple players said that at a meeting before practice, they were told the Steelers now have a zero-tolerance policy regarding misconduct. Wide receiver Santonio Holmes, the MVP of the Steelers' Super Bowl victory in February 2009, was traded to the Jets for a fifth-round draft pick last week following a series of problems.

"We were told early this morning that either you get in line or you'll get kicked out of line -- you're going to be traded or you're not going to be here," right tackle Willie Colon, who reportedly accompanied Roethlisberger on the trip to Georgia, said after Monday's workout. "If your conduct is going to play a part in you not being a good football player, they're going to get rid of you."

Tomlin met with players before practice, and that's where players said the message was delivered. The coach, however, denied making those remarks. Tomlin rarely discusses issues he addresses with his players. But defensive end Aaron Smith confirmed remarks were made to the Steelers "as a group."

"Guys took it different ways, depending on how they interpreted it, but I think ... after what we've seen go on, there's not going to be much tolerance for stuff around here," Smith said.

While Roethlisberger's teammates realize they might start the season without the quarterback who led them to four double-digit win seasons the past six seasons, most are supporting him. None publicly rebuked him.

"He's a fun guy, likes to joke around and have a good time, he's easy to get along with, I've never had any problems with him," Smith said. "Like a big kid, kind of, hanging out."

Several were confused by the latest accusations, which they said don't mesh with the Roethlisberger they know.

"It's not as if Ben is just some crazy [guy], an enemy or just a person who's so terrible," said wide receiver Antwaan Randle El, who rejoined the Steelers after four seasons with Washington. "We're dealing with it, we have dealt with it and we're moving on. It's better now, certainly, than during the season."

Randle El also said, "Some of us have had the same situations; they just didn't come to light. We can't point the finger at everyone." He did not elaborate.

While some Steelers fans are calling for Roethlisberger to be traded -- the team has had no known discussions of that kind -- Smith can't imagine why the team wouldn't want to keep him.

"Wouldn't you?" Smith said. "The man's a great quarterback; I mean he comes out there and he wins games. And that's what we're in the business of doing, winning games."

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.



He purveyed alcohol to a minor in an attempt to get laid. That in and of itself should be a violation of the personal conduct policy, I would think.

It boggles my mind that millionaires have to get their girls soused in order to get their dicks wet. How lame have people become these days? Jesus. Tell the girl you like her; if she doesn't like you, move on. If you're so inept that you can't get laid the manly way, then just be honest and pay a hooker. Sure, it's still illegal, but at least you won't get charged with rape.
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