dhazer
15 years ago

Folks remember Ted Thompson believes in his players being able to play multiple positions and he's not to concerned about have a player that plays one position well.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



Where's the proof of this silly statement? I'm guessing you read something about how two players were very close and one's ability to play ST well was the deciding factor, and you determined that they chose to take the player who was ok on D (or O) and ST vs. the player who was great on D (or O) and bad on ST. Reading an article with a skewed perception and letting it affect what you read is pretty much your M.O..

"dhazer" wrote:



Ok how about our offensive line? Why was Preston picked up? It was because he could play all the positions on the line. Look what they are doing now moving players around to fill in the holes. Lets move a guy from his best position to a spot hes ok at and fill in his spot with someone that is average.



I seen people talk that there was no safteys available, i bring up someone i said i would love to see in Green Bay and that was Jimmy Leonard because he played in the Baltimore defense and i believe he would have been our starter.

People bitch at me because they say i come into these threads and bring in the Ted Thompson hate which is fine i'm a big boy i can handle it (as i have proven since day 1) but look at the threads i have started fun threads lately and how many negative threads have been started lately it is most of the posts.

Welcome to the Darkside people 😛
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
reed
Pack93z
15 years ago

Smith blew his assignment on his big interception on preseason. The offense was running two WR up field between the sideline and hash mark. Smith was responsible for deep coverage on that side of the field instead Smith was playing center field.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



That is one.. +1.

But when Woodson plays off, baits in the throw, jumps it and makes a big play we cheer him. Smith was out of position yet recovered and made a play.. and we scold him. Or maybe it was highlighted to defend his upcoming release.. not that I am sold on that story.. but..

But I won't deny.. Smith was way to shallow on that coverage..

"pack93z" wrote:



Big difference between playing off, and being out of position though. Woody is still covering his zone.

And as for looking at S. Not a bad idea when the first 3 are all dinged up after two weeks.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



During week one where Woodson was well out of position and the ball was thrown easily over him.. it happens.. the trick is not to make a habit of it. Sorry, I just didn't see Smith blowing assignment after assignment as some seem to suggest..

I am not claiming the Smith was the best thing since sliced [strike]toast[/strike] bread.. I am saying he made this team deeper than it is now.. nothing more.

When making up a final roster.. sure there is some considerations to be made for special teams, but I don't think you weaken your core units to accomplish that.

Unless they were counting on Bush more so as a corner.. but would you feel confident with Bush playing on the island? Neither would I.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Rockmolder
15 years ago
Sliced toast? Instead of a whole loaf of toast or something? :downtown:
Pack93z
15 years ago

Sliced toast? Instead of a whole loaf of toast or something? :downtown:

"Rockmolder" wrote:



lol.. well played my friend..

Yeah.. I am a little riled up this morning.. I blame the Bills. ;)

UserPostedImage


There.. I feel better now.. needed to pick on the Viking fan for a moment.. Favre love to an extreme. 😉
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
15 years ago

But when Woodson plays off, baits in the throw, jumps it and makes a big play we cheer him. Smith was out of position yet recovered and made a play.. and we scold him. Or maybe it was highlighted to defend his upcoming release.. not that I am sold on that story.. but..

But I won't deny.. Smith was way to shallow on that coverage..

"pack93z" wrote:



I've jumped on Woodson for mistakes before and he's one of my favorite players in the NFL. Not sure where that was going.

I think one would be hard pressed to say that Smith's Pro's outweighed his Con's especially when trying to compare that to ... CHARLES FREAKING WOODSON??? lol Not a good comparison. (yeah i'm bias with woodson wont sugar coat that one)

Remember 55sandman's report? Not assignment sure, not as good on special teams as others and that rumor ... seems likely to me. As has been documented, I don't think the coach's dislike for Smith is the chief reason he's gone, but I wouldn't doubt it played a role. "I dont like the guy, he's out of position, not solid on special teams, let him go". I can see that as what happened.

I'll say it again. I'd have rather kept Smith than Bush. Not sure how I can make that more clear. With that it was a mistake to let him go. If you recall I wanted Smith to replace Bigby because I have no faith in Bigby lasting a season. He came on strong at the END of '07, that's it. He takes lots of risks and often times gets screwed.

I should update one of those >'s...
Smith > Bigby = Never. (IF both are healthy)

From a fan's standpoint, I think it was wrong to keep Bush, period. I'd rather have kept Smith.

From a fan's standpoint looking at how management could have been thinking, I can see why they let Smith go and I don't consider it a mistake at the time of the decision.

It doesn't take any balls to say it was a mistake now that we have Collins, Bigby and Rouse dinged up. Heck, even I'd hang my set out in the wind on that one!! lol

(anyone notice we yet again are having a lengthy discussion over a player who was cut? lol)
UserPostedImage
15 years ago

Folks remember Ted Thompson believes in his players being able to play multiple positions and he's not to concerned about have a player that plays one position well.

"dhazer" wrote:



Where's the proof of this silly statement? I'm guessing you read something about how two players were very close and one's ability to play ST well was the deciding factor, and you determined that they chose to take the player who was ok on D (or O) and ST vs. the player who was great on D (or O) and bad on ST. Reading an article with a skewed perception and letting it affect what you read is pretty much your M.O..

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



Ok how about our offensive line? Why was Preston picked up? It was because he could play all the positions on the line. Look what they are doing now moving players around to fill in the holes. Lets move a guy from his best position to a spot hes ok at and fill in his spot with someone that is average.



I seen people talk that there was no safteys available, i bring up someone i said i would love to see in Green Bay and that was Jimmy Leonard because he played in the Baltimore defense and i believe he would have been our starter.

People bitch at me because they say i come into these threads and bring in the Ted Thompson hate which is fine i'm a big boy i can handle it (as i have proven since day 1) but look at the threads i have started fun threads lately and how many negative threads have been started lately it is most of the posts.

Welcome to the Darkside people :P

"dhazer" wrote:



What is Preston doing now, btw? Not really a good example for you on how Thompson champions these multi-role players (something Belichick is famous for, btw).

I'm not sure who you wanted them to plug in at LT after Clifton went down.
UserPostedImage
Pack93z
15 years ago


(anyone notice we yet again are having a lengthy discussion over a player who was cut? lol)

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Because within a matter of less than two weeks it has turned around an drilled us in the sack again.. yes again. Frost anyone?
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Pack93z
15 years ago



I've jumped on Woodson for mistakes before and he's one of my favorite players in the NFL. Not sure where that was going.

I think one would be hard pressed to say that Smith's Pro's outweighed his Con's especially when trying to compare that to ... CHARLES FREAKING WOODSON??? lol Not a good comparison. (yeah i'm bias with woodson wont sugar coat that one)

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



My point.. every secondary personnel will make a mistake here and there.. it happens so to point to one mistake in the preseason, one where he recovered and say that is validation to be cut is a mistake. BTW.. Smith made more than one play in the preseason right. ;)

End of the day... I think cutting talent with two players ahead of Smith on the depth chart are already nicked up was an oversight.. especially if you are now fearful to play the the guy (Bush) that was kept instead.

Anyway.. water over the damn.. next contest, come on down, you are on the Price is... who are we kidding we are mildly desperate to get someone ready in case another one goes down.

Speaking of which.. Breno better be active this week or cut his ass in place of someone that you have enough faith in to be active.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
I think the old adage, "You don't lose your starting job due to injury" is bullshit, plain and simple. I think that's an excellent reason to lose your starting job.

And with that, I am leaving the boards to finish some homework.
UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
15 years ago



I've jumped on Woodson for mistakes before and he's one of my favorite players in the NFL. Not sure where that was going.

I think one would be hard pressed to say that Smith's Pro's outweighed his Con's especially when trying to compare that to ... CHARLES FREAKING WOODSON??? lol Not a good comparison. (yeah i'm bias with woodson wont sugar coat that one)

"pack93z" wrote:



My point.. every secondary personnel will make a mistake here and there.. it happens so to point to one mistake in the preseason, one where he recovered and say that is validation to be cut is a mistake. BTW.. Smith made more than one play in the preseason right. ;)

End of the day... I think cutting talent with two players ahead of Smith on the depth chart are already nicked up was an oversight.. especially if you are now fearful to play the the guy (Bush) that was kept instead.

Anyway.. water over the damn.. next contest, come on down, you are on the Price is... who are we kidding we are mildly desperate to get someone ready in case another one goes down.

Speaking of which.. Breno better be active this week or cut his ass in place of someone that you have enough faith in to be active.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Thing is, Smith made (more but) one play and that's one more than Bush has made in how many years?

I'm comfortable with Collins. That's the only safety on our team I can say that about.
UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (14-Feb) : Packers are hiring Luke Getsy as senior offensive assistant.
Martha Careful (12-Feb) : I would love to have them both, esp. Crosby, but either might be too expensive.
Zero2Cool (12-Feb) : Keisean Nixon is trying to get Maxx Crosby and Davante Adams lol
Mucky Tundra (11-Feb) : Yeah where did it go?
packerfanoutwest (11-Feb) : or did you resctrict access to that topic?
packerfanoutwest (11-Feb) : why did you remove the Playoff topic?
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Tua’s old DC won a Super Bowl Year 1 with Tua’s former backup
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : *winning MVP
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Funny observation I've heard: Carson Wentz was on the sideline for both Eagles Super Bowl wins w/guys supposed to be his back up winning
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : NFL thought it would get more attention week preceding Super Bowl.
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Yes, the Pro Bowl. It was played Sunday before Super Bowl from 2010-2022
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : pro bowl
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : From 2010 to 2022, it was played on the Sunday before the Super Bowl
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : They moved it to the BYE week before Super Bowl several years ago.
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : it was always after the SB.....
beast (10-Feb) : Though I stop following pro bowl years ago
beast (10-Feb) : I thought the pro game was before the Super Bowl?
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : ok now for the Pro Bowl Game in Hawaii
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : If I was Philly I would try to end it instead of punting it
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : VICTORY! We have (moral) victory!
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Hey they mentioned that we 3-peted
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : seems to me the 49ers should have traded Aiyuk when they had the chance
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : if the Eagles get it down to the 1, do they Tush Push or give it to Barkley?
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : 49ers have a money problem if they want to sign their QB
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Wait for real? Didn't he just get an extension two years ago?
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : 49ers gonna trade Deebo. Interesting
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Replays always never seem to show the holdings
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Great throw by Hurts
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Where Carter falls prey to bad off the field influences (to be clear, not saying he'd clip someone though)
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Had Carter not gone to Philly were they already had a lot of old college friends, he ends up in a similar spot to Aaron Hernandez
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : I think some of his coaches told scouts to stay away
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : the street racing incident+conditioning and motivation problems
beast (10-Feb) : Then Carter was street racing, where the other car crashed and people died... and other teams were scared to pick Carter for some reason
beast (10-Feb) : I think the Saints traded up, giving their next year 1st to the Eagles, and then they sucked and Eagles got the 10th overall pick
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : wtf Barkley?
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Getting Carter and Nolan Smith in the first round in 2023 was pretty darn good
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : for some reason i'm thinking of a draft where the Eagles where in the mid 20s and a top player fell all the way to them
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : I think so. I would need to look it up. Think it may have been Carolina's pick.
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : i'm not sure who i'm thinking of now
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : oh fuck me i messed that up
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Jordan Davis was 13th overall
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Carter was 9th overall
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Eagles had 15th and 10th selections, moved to 13 and 9 to get Davis and Carter back to back
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Eagles traded up for Carter, didn't they?
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Obviously he was a huge risk but getting a top 5 talent on the dline in the mid 20s is fortuitous
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Jalen Carter falling into their lap certainly helps
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : And we could only wish to have this type of D
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : It's not like Philly has had low draft picks, but has managed to get themselves a top notch pass rush. We spend so much draft capital of D
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : another crap halftime show
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : I think it is over, but then I think of Atlanta and want Philly to go in with the same intensity in the second half
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
3h / Around The NFL / beast

6h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

8h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

17h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

15-Feb / Around The NFL / beast

15-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

14-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / TheKanataThrilla

14-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

13-Feb / Random Babble / Mucky Tundra

10-Feb / Featured Content / Zero2Cool

10-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

9-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

9-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / dhazer

7-Feb / Around The NFL / Zero2Cool

4-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.