dhazer
15 years ago

Folks remember Ted Thompson believes in his players being able to play multiple positions and he's not to concerned about have a player that plays one position well.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



Where's the proof of this silly statement? I'm guessing you read something about how two players were very close and one's ability to play ST well was the deciding factor, and you determined that they chose to take the player who was ok on D (or O) and ST vs. the player who was great on D (or O) and bad on ST. Reading an article with a skewed perception and letting it affect what you read is pretty much your M.O..

"dhazer" wrote:



Ok how about our offensive line? Why was Preston picked up? It was because he could play all the positions on the line. Look what they are doing now moving players around to fill in the holes. Lets move a guy from his best position to a spot hes ok at and fill in his spot with someone that is average.



I seen people talk that there was no safteys available, i bring up someone i said i would love to see in Green Bay and that was Jimmy Leonard because he played in the Baltimore defense and i believe he would have been our starter.

People bitch at me because they say i come into these threads and bring in the Ted Thompson hate which is fine i'm a big boy i can handle it (as i have proven since day 1) but look at the threads i have started fun threads lately and how many negative threads have been started lately it is most of the posts.

Welcome to the Darkside people 😛
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Pack93z
15 years ago

Smith blew his assignment on his big interception on preseason. The offense was running two WR up field between the sideline and hash mark. Smith was responsible for deep coverage on that side of the field instead Smith was playing center field.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



That is one.. +1.

But when Woodson plays off, baits in the throw, jumps it and makes a big play we cheer him. Smith was out of position yet recovered and made a play.. and we scold him. Or maybe it was highlighted to defend his upcoming release.. not that I am sold on that story.. but..

But I won't deny.. Smith was way to shallow on that coverage..

"pack93z" wrote:



Big difference between playing off, and being out of position though. Woody is still covering his zone.

And as for looking at S. Not a bad idea when the first 3 are all dinged up after two weeks.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



During week one where Woodson was well out of position and the ball was thrown easily over him.. it happens.. the trick is not to make a habit of it. Sorry, I just didn't see Smith blowing assignment after assignment as some seem to suggest..

I am not claiming the Smith was the best thing since sliced [strike]toast[/strike] bread.. I am saying he made this team deeper than it is now.. nothing more.

When making up a final roster.. sure there is some considerations to be made for special teams, but I don't think you weaken your core units to accomplish that.

Unless they were counting on Bush more so as a corner.. but would you feel confident with Bush playing on the island? Neither would I.
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Rockmolder
15 years ago
Sliced toast? Instead of a whole loaf of toast or something? :downtown:
Pack93z
15 years ago

Sliced toast? Instead of a whole loaf of toast or something? :downtown:

"Rockmolder" wrote:



lol.. well played my friend..

Yeah.. I am a little riled up this morning.. I blame the Bills. ;)

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There.. I feel better now.. needed to pick on the Viking fan for a moment.. Favre love to an extreme. 😉
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago

But when Woodson plays off, baits in the throw, jumps it and makes a big play we cheer him. Smith was out of position yet recovered and made a play.. and we scold him. Or maybe it was highlighted to defend his upcoming release.. not that I am sold on that story.. but..

But I won't deny.. Smith was way to shallow on that coverage..

"pack93z" wrote:



I've jumped on Woodson for mistakes before and he's one of my favorite players in the NFL. Not sure where that was going.

I think one would be hard pressed to say that Smith's Pro's outweighed his Con's especially when trying to compare that to ... CHARLES FREAKING WOODSON??? lol Not a good comparison. (yeah i'm bias with woodson wont sugar coat that one)

Remember 55sandman's report? Not assignment sure, not as good on special teams as others and that rumor ... seems likely to me. As has been documented, I don't think the coach's dislike for Smith is the chief reason he's gone, but I wouldn't doubt it played a role. "I dont like the guy, he's out of position, not solid on special teams, let him go". I can see that as what happened.

I'll say it again. I'd have rather kept Smith than Bush. Not sure how I can make that more clear. With that it was a mistake to let him go. If you recall I wanted Smith to replace Bigby because I have no faith in Bigby lasting a season. He came on strong at the END of '07, that's it. He takes lots of risks and often times gets screwed.

I should update one of those >'s...
Smith > Bigby = Never. (IF both are healthy)

From a fan's standpoint, I think it was wrong to keep Bush, period. I'd rather have kept Smith.

From a fan's standpoint looking at how management could have been thinking, I can see why they let Smith go and I don't consider it a mistake at the time of the decision.

It doesn't take any balls to say it was a mistake now that we have Collins, Bigby and Rouse dinged up. Heck, even I'd hang my set out in the wind on that one!! lol

(anyone notice we yet again are having a lengthy discussion over a player who was cut? lol)
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15 years ago

Folks remember Ted Thompson believes in his players being able to play multiple positions and he's not to concerned about have a player that plays one position well.

"dhazer" wrote:



Where's the proof of this silly statement? I'm guessing you read something about how two players were very close and one's ability to play ST well was the deciding factor, and you determined that they chose to take the player who was ok on D (or O) and ST vs. the player who was great on D (or O) and bad on ST. Reading an article with a skewed perception and letting it affect what you read is pretty much your M.O..

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



Ok how about our offensive line? Why was Preston picked up? It was because he could play all the positions on the line. Look what they are doing now moving players around to fill in the holes. Lets move a guy from his best position to a spot hes ok at and fill in his spot with someone that is average.



I seen people talk that there was no safteys available, i bring up someone i said i would love to see in Green Bay and that was Jimmy Leonard because he played in the Baltimore defense and i believe he would have been our starter.

People bitch at me because they say i come into these threads and bring in the Ted Thompson hate which is fine i'm a big boy i can handle it (as i have proven since day 1) but look at the threads i have started fun threads lately and how many negative threads have been started lately it is most of the posts.

Welcome to the Darkside people :P

"dhazer" wrote:



What is Preston doing now, btw? Not really a good example for you on how Thompson champions these multi-role players (something Belichick is famous for, btw).

I'm not sure who you wanted them to plug in at LT after Clifton went down.
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Pack93z
15 years ago


(anyone notice we yet again are having a lengthy discussion over a player who was cut? lol)

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Because within a matter of less than two weeks it has turned around an drilled us in the sack again.. yes again. Frost anyone?
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Pack93z
15 years ago



I've jumped on Woodson for mistakes before and he's one of my favorite players in the NFL. Not sure where that was going.

I think one would be hard pressed to say that Smith's Pro's outweighed his Con's especially when trying to compare that to ... CHARLES FREAKING WOODSON??? lol Not a good comparison. (yeah i'm bias with woodson wont sugar coat that one)

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



My point.. every secondary personnel will make a mistake here and there.. it happens so to point to one mistake in the preseason, one where he recovered and say that is validation to be cut is a mistake. BTW.. Smith made more than one play in the preseason right. ;)

End of the day... I think cutting talent with two players ahead of Smith on the depth chart are already nicked up was an oversight.. especially if you are now fearful to play the the guy (Bush) that was kept instead.

Anyway.. water over the damn.. next contest, come on down, you are on the Price is... who are we kidding we are mildly desperate to get someone ready in case another one goes down.

Speaking of which.. Breno better be active this week or cut his ass in place of someone that you have enough faith in to be active.
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
I think the old adage, "You don't lose your starting job due to injury" is bullshit, plain and simple. I think that's an excellent reason to lose your starting job.

And with that, I am leaving the boards to finish some homework.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago



I've jumped on Woodson for mistakes before and he's one of my favorite players in the NFL. Not sure where that was going.

I think one would be hard pressed to say that Smith's Pro's outweighed his Con's especially when trying to compare that to ... CHARLES FREAKING WOODSON??? lol Not a good comparison. (yeah i'm bias with woodson wont sugar coat that one)

"pack93z" wrote:



My point.. every secondary personnel will make a mistake here and there.. it happens so to point to one mistake in the preseason, one where he recovered and say that is validation to be cut is a mistake. BTW.. Smith made more than one play in the preseason right. ;)

End of the day... I think cutting talent with two players ahead of Smith on the depth chart are already nicked up was an oversight.. especially if you are now fearful to play the the guy (Bush) that was kept instead.

Anyway.. water over the damn.. next contest, come on down, you are on the Price is... who are we kidding we are mildly desperate to get someone ready in case another one goes down.

Speaking of which.. Breno better be active this week or cut his ass in place of someone that you have enough faith in to be active.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Thing is, Smith made (more but) one play and that's one more than Bush has made in how many years?

I'm comfortable with Collins. That's the only safety on our team I can say that about.
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