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15 years ago

Are third-string QBs going extinct? 

Being a backup QB can be frustrating at times, but the job pays well and has many built-in benefits, writes Matt Mosley.


By Matt Mosley


One of the best ways to drive up your price as a backup quarterback in the NFL is to make sure you never take the field. I mean, if Matt Schaub can just keep this up, he'll be remembered as the man Michael Vick prevented from leading the Falcons to the Super Bowl.

Never before has so much money gone to men whom teams are praying they won't have to use.

Even though the league has gone to great lengths to protect quarterbacks, teams still pay a premium for reliable backups. Guys such as free agent Anthony Wright celebrated Jeff Garcia's success in Philadelphia because it makes their inactivity more marketable than ever.

Wright, 31, was in Denver on Wednesday interviewing to be Jay Cutler's backup, but by the time he arrived home Thursday, the Broncos had won a dubious bidding war for the services of former Redskins first-round pick Patrick Ramsey, who commanded $1.5 million in guaranteed money.

Wright, who spent last season backing up Carson Palmer in Cincinnati, has noticed a disturbing trend in the clipboard community: the disappearance of the third-string quarterback.

"If you have a pocket quarterback, there's not as much reason to carry three," he said. "It's the guys who run around all the time who get hurt."

Teams such as the Super Bowl champion Colts have eliminated the third wheel, in part, because coaches would rather obsess about deploying a fourth tight end or an eighth defensive back.

I counted at least 10 teams that began last season with only two quarterbacks on their 53-man rosters, and six of those teams made the playoffs. Because of the copycat nature of this league, don't be shocked if more of your favorite third-stringers go missing. It's easier -- and less expensive -- to simply keep a young quarterback on the practice squad. But it does eliminate one of the greatest gigs in all of sports.

A third-string quarterback for the Cowboys once told me he played golf three times a week. And that was during the season. Most career backups don't completely embrace their status until they wake up one day and realize they have functioning knees and pension plans. Backups are usually among the most popular players on the team because they represent change and a false hope for tomorrow.

Wright said the best backups are the ones who have a clear understanding of their roles.

"First, you have to provide assistance to the starter during the game," he said. "And second, you have to be mentally disciplined enough to prepare like you're going to start every week. When I hear some guys say they weren't ready, it just kills me."

Does the name Billy Joe Hobert ring a bell?

Wright, an undrafted player out of South Carolina, said Ravens coach Brian Billick told him he was the club's best quarterback heading into the 2003 season, but that Kyle Boller (first round) and Chris Redman (third round) would be first- and second-string.

"He told me I probably wasn't going to get a fair chance," Wright said. "And I wasn't happy about it."

Wright ended up replacing an injured Boller and led the Ravens to a 5-2 record over the final seven games. Last year, he had a great relationship with Palmer, who often asked for his input during games.

It's not easy to be friends with a man who covets your job, and that's why some teams try to pair young quarterbacks with veterans. Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo worshipped Vinny Testaverde when the two were together in 2004, and Bill Parcells gave his former Jets quarterback a lot of credit for Romo's development.

On the other hand, Romo and Drew Bledsoe never connected, making the veteran's demotion last season even more awkward. To keep their edge, backup quarterbacks often compete in other sports during the offseason. Romo used to spend part of his offseason playing basketball and flag football.

"I had to either play basketball or rush home and play a video game," Wright said. "Or I might really come hard in seven-on-seven drills. You have to find a way to keep the edge."


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nerdmann
15 years ago
Yeah, grab Jeff Garcia. I would definitely do that.
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RainX
15 years ago
Suprised, but not overly shocked they cut Brohm. You'd like to have thought he would have shown more improvement by now.

Looking at the QBs who are floating out there on waivers right now, there is probably a decent chance Brohm will end up back on the practice squad if the Packers want him back. A year off the active roster and on the practice squad probably won't hurt him considering he would probably have been inactive most game days anyways.
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porky88
15 years ago
If Flynn plays for a long period of time, Green Bay will not do anything at all. Maybe four wins over 16 game season.

So two quarterbacks vs. three is really meaningless unless one of those three is a veteran talent and the third is a developmental player.
gakko
15 years ago
Garcia just thinks he's god because he married this girl that never would have married him if he wasn't an NFL QB. hahaha
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15 years ago
1) There is no need for the 3rd QB if he is on the practice squad.

2) Others are out there available if you are worried about another team signing him. Jeff Garcia, Joey Harrington, Andrew Walter, etc.

3) If there is too much response he can be withdrawn from waivers.

4) Practice Squad is a lot cheaper than 2nd round contract money.
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packersfan99
15 years ago
Yes Maybe Brohm goes to the practice squad, i don't think any other team claim him from the waivers, so there is a pretty good chance that him come back to the team

I don't like Jeff Garcia, Joey Harrington, Andrew Walter, i was betting on Colt Brennan but he is on IR now
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dfosterf
15 years ago
If the rumor is true...

Garcia is going to look good in a Packer uniform.


He can move a football team.

Everyone always says Garcia is this, that and the other thing...usually not very nice things, btw--- right up until he starts playing in an emergency situation--Then the critics usually say, "oops".


The big question isn't what we do here, it is what other teams do.

My bet is that we are gambling that no one signs Garcia until opening day, and that we will do so then.

His price will be cheap, and his guarantee will be null. (Vested vet stuff)

This is all based on a rumor, (Not the part about when he might get signed by us--that's a different rumor--PFT stuff) but the source is batting .500 so far, and that was a pretty good "hit" on the Brohm getting cut thing....I'm just sayin'...
Kingdom22
15 years ago
Well let's just sign Jeff Garcia and we are good. That means Ted would really really want to win. We need a Vet QB on that chart guys. Who better than a proven backup QB that has come in and done a great job when called upon.
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porky88
15 years ago
Garcia strikes me as a guy who doesn't know his role. I'm not sure he would be content with backing up Rodgers. I much rather have A.J. Feeley who knows his role although it seems like he may sign with New England soon if he hasn't already.
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