Pack93z
16 years ago
Look at some sample numbers here .

This has gone way to far off the original topic to be saved... were we not talking about emulating the Patriots blueprint here. 😉
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16 years ago

just for fun, you wanna do a comparable TD table, LT?

"TheOldMan" wrote:




FYI non started this and I thought was interesting he also posted the tds as well..But I'll do it again

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2623_The_mighty_CHFF_interception_ladder.html 



Teams that toss more touchdowns than their opponents are 207-62 (.770)

Teams that toss fewer interceptions than their opponents are 258-56 (.822).


The most interesting part of the interception ladder is not just that INTs are costly.

Sure, chronicling the actual percentages is nice, but we all know that turnovers cost teams.

The most interesting part is that throwing INTs or, more specifically, not throwing INTs is actually more important than throwing touchdowns in the playoffs.

Last week alone, teams that threw more touchdown passes were 1-2; teams that threw fewer interceptions were 2-1. (The TD and INT numbers were even in one game each.)

Its a bit shocking, considering that the name of the game is to get the ball into the end zone. So you would think that getting the ball into end zone is actually a pretty important indicator. It is, of course, as evidenced by the .770 winning percentage. But it's simply more important to keep the ball out of the hands of your opponent.

"longtimefan" wrote:



That's ironic.

That site is a known Favre hating site.

So I'd take anything they say with a couple pounds of salt.

"bozz_2006" wrote:



Hahaha are you saying that their criticism of interceptions in the playoffs is related to their hatred of Favre? Hahahahahaha... oh my god that's great. I couldn't have come up with anything funnier.
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dhazer
16 years ago

just for fun, you wanna do a comparable TD table, LT?

"MassPackersFan" wrote:




FYI non started this and I thought was interesting he also posted the tds as well..But I'll do it again

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2623_The_mighty_CHFF_interception_ladder.html 



Teams that toss more touchdowns than their opponents are 207-62 (.770)

Teams that toss fewer interceptions than their opponents are 258-56 (.822).


The most interesting part of the interception ladder is not just that INTs are costly.

Sure, chronicling the actual percentages is nice, but we all know that turnovers cost teams.

The most interesting part is that throwing INTs or, more specifically, not throwing INTs is actually more important than throwing touchdowns in the playoffs.

Last week alone, teams that threw more touchdown passes were 1-2; teams that threw fewer interceptions were 2-1. (The TD and INT numbers were even in one game each.)

Its a bit shocking, considering that the name of the game is to get the ball into the end zone. So you would think that getting the ball into end zone is actually a pretty important indicator. It is, of course, as evidenced by the .770 winning percentage. But it's simply more important to keep the ball out of the hands of your opponent.

"TheOldMan" wrote:



That's ironic.

That site is a known Favre hating site.

So I'd take anything they say with a couple pounds of salt.

"longtimefan" wrote:



Hahaha are you saying that their criticism of interceptions in the playoffs is related to their hatred of Favre? Hahahahahaha... oh my god that's great. I couldn't have come up with anything funnier.

"bozz_2006" wrote:



Is Non and LTF still on the interception thing maybe they should take a look at the thread Packz started and look at Bradshaws stats and he has 4 super bowl rings.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Zero2Cool
16 years ago

Is Non and LTF still on the interception thing maybe they should take a look at the thread Packz started and look at Bradshaws stats and he has 4 super bowl rings.

"dhazer" wrote:

Dude, Bradshaw had one of if not THE most feared defense for many years man. You turn the ball over, the defense would get it BACK for you right away. HUGE DIFFERENCE!
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TheOldMan
16 years ago

just for fun, you wanna do a comparable TD table, LT?

"MassPackersFan" wrote:




FYI non started this and I thought was interesting he also posted the tds as well..But I'll do it again

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2623_The_mighty_CHFF_interception_ladder.html 



Teams that toss more touchdowns than their opponents are 207-62 (.770)

Teams that toss fewer interceptions than their opponents are 258-56 (.822).


The most interesting part of the interception ladder is not just that INTs are costly.

Sure, chronicling the actual percentages is nice, but we all know that turnovers cost teams.

The most interesting part is that throwing INTs or, more specifically, not throwing INTs is actually more important than throwing touchdowns in the playoffs.

Last week alone, teams that threw more touchdown passes were 1-2; teams that threw fewer interceptions were 2-1. (The TD and INT numbers were even in one game each.)

Its a bit shocking, considering that the name of the game is to get the ball into the end zone. So you would think that getting the ball into end zone is actually a pretty important indicator. It is, of course, as evidenced by the .770 winning percentage. But it's simply more important to keep the ball out of the hands of your opponent.

"TheOldMan" wrote:



That's ironic.

That site is a known Favre hating site.

So I'd take anything they say with a couple pounds of salt.

"longtimefan" wrote:



Hahaha are you saying that their criticism of interceptions in the playoffs is related to their hatred of Favre? Hahahahahaha... oh my god that's great. I couldn't have come up with anything funnier.

"bozz_2006" wrote:



No, i'm just saying that it's a discredited, Favre hating, garbage piece of a website.

Look at the crap they have posted on Favre up there now, if you don't believe me.
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dhazer
16 years ago

Is Non and LTF still on the interception thing maybe they should take a look at the thread Packz started and look at Bradshaws stats and he has 4 super bowl rings.

"SlickVision" wrote:

Dude, Bradshaw had one of if not THE most feared defense for many years man. You turn the ball over, the defense would get it BACK for you right away. HUGE DIFFERENCE!

"dhazer" wrote:




Ok Bart Starr 4.38% of passes were INTs look at his thread Zero it will shock you.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
reed
longtimefan
16 years ago

just for fun, you wanna do a comparable TD table, LT?

"TheOldMan" wrote:




FYI non started this and I thought was interesting he also posted the tds as well..But I'll do it again

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2623_The_mighty_CHFF_interception_ladder.html 



Teams that toss more touchdowns than their opponents are 207-62 (.770)

Teams that toss fewer interceptions than their opponents are 258-56 (.822).


The most interesting part of the interception ladder is not just that INTs are costly.

Sure, chronicling the actual percentages is nice, but we all know that turnovers cost teams.

The most interesting part is that throwing INTs or, more specifically, not throwing INTs is actually more important than throwing touchdowns in the playoffs.

Last week alone, teams that threw more touchdown passes were 1-2; teams that threw fewer interceptions were 2-1. (The TD and INT numbers were even in one game each.)

Its a bit shocking, considering that the name of the game is to get the ball into the end zone. So you would think that getting the ball into end zone is actually a pretty important indicator. It is, of course, as evidenced by the .770 winning percentage. But it's simply more important to keep the ball out of the hands of your opponent.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



That's ironic.

That site is a known Favre hating site.

So I'd take anything they say with a couple pounds of salt.

"TheOldMan" wrote:



Hahaha are you saying that their criticism of interceptions in the playoffs is related to their hatred of Favre? Hahahahahaha... oh my god that's great. I couldn't have come up with anything funnier.

"longtimefan" wrote:



No, i'm just saying that it's a discredited, Favre hating, garbage piece of a website.

Look at the crap they have posted on Favre up there now, if you don't believe me.

"bozz_2006" wrote:



Care to show me where I posted ANYTHING about Brett?
Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago

No, i'm just saying that it's a discredited, Favre hating, garbage piece of a website.

"TheOldMan" wrote:



Discredited by whom, pray tell? Links, please. And why do you bring Favre into your criticism of this article when he's mentioned nowhere in it?
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Zero2Cool
16 years ago

I can't actually take credit for the Willimas statement. Last year in August at the Harley Fest I had the priviledge of talking privately with Bill Micheals (the big unit) and he was telling me how important Willimas was to the defensive line even though his number were not huge. It was Bill that correctly forecasted our defensive line would be in big trouble without Williams.

I think we have possibly solved that issue with the addition of Raji.

"Trippster" wrote:



I have to think that losing Cullen Jenkins combined with losing Williams was the reason for the DL collapse, far more so than the loss of Williams. Cullen was a every down player, Williams was a rotation guy. I believe.

Either way, we were doing better when Cullen was in there and there wasn't that much of a drop off until he was injured. That's when our DL took a poopie.
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