15 years ago
There are a few teams to be a fan of if you love constant big name free agency signings! The Skins would be perfect! Or the Patriots! Be happy and root for a team you actually like!

The Packers currently have 69 players on their roster. This consists of 34 draft picks, 2 traded, 3 from waivers and 30 from free agency.

30 out of 39 players were from free agency! Two of them which were before Thompson got here.

What do you make of this?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



The team has been built without sacrificing any future years. If the scouting for the draft and FA is good and our team is competitive and successful, it means they will be competitive and successful steadily for years. All we don't see is a "we must win it now and only now, screw the future" mentality, imho.
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Packers_Finland
15 years ago

I have never been attracted to the "sign a big name guy" mentality. I would much rather see an improvement in the way the team develops the guys that we draft. It takes longer but it's the best way to build a franchise that can be successful over a long period of time. Hopefully all of the defensive and str/conditioning coaches we hired this offseason can get it done. I think it was the right way to go.

"dhazer" wrote:



Sorry Steve i have to disagree on this one, that was the way to do it back in the 70's and 80's when there wasn't a free agency, that just don't work in this day and age. With free agency you will always be losing players to it no matter what so if we stay with the Ted Thompson plan we will always be rebuilding IMO.

"Stevetarded" wrote:



We haven't really lost that many big name players to free agency under Ted Thompson, so your point is invalid. Ted doesn't grab a lot of players from the FA list, but usually gives a guy an extension or re-signs them before anyone else does.
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dhazer
15 years ago
Finny we really don't have any big name players to lose lol. I won't be surprised to see Jennings leave the team, or the likes of Collins and Williams. I hope Jennings don't go but it wouldn't surprise me.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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longtimefan
15 years ago

I have never been attracted to the "sign a big name guy" mentality. I would much rather see an improvement in the way the team develops the guys that we draft. It takes longer but it's the best way to build a franchise that can be successful over a long period of time. Hopefully all of the defensive and str/conditioning coaches we hired this offseason can get it done. I think it was the right way to go.

"dhazer" wrote:



Sorry Steve i have to disagree on this one, that was the way to do it back in the 70's and 80's when there wasn't a free agency, that just don't work in this day and age. With free agency you will always be losing players to it no matter what so if we stay with the Ted Thompson plan we will always be rebuilding IMO.

"Stevetarded" wrote:



how did NE and Pitt start in the last 8 years or so?

look up NE 1st SB win with Brady look at their players then do the same for Pitt with Big Ben


Up until just last 2 years did NE go after those higher priced f/a

and i do not think Pitt even went after those guys
Packers_Finland
15 years ago

Finny we really don't have any big name players to lose lol. I won't be surprised to see Jennings leave the team, or the likes of Collins and Williams. I hope Jennings don't go but it wouldn't surprise me.

"dhazer" wrote:



If Ted hasn't let any big players go yet, what makes you think he'll suddenly do an exception on Jennings, Collins and Williams. Makes no sense. Mention three big players we have lost to free agency (to counter-act the three big players we have gotten out of FA; Tramon, Pickett and Woodson) and I will withdraw my point.
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Bigbyfan
15 years ago

I have never been attracted to the "sign a big name guy" mentality. I would much rather see an improvement in the way the team develops the guys that we draft. It takes longer but it's the best way to build a franchise that can be successful over a long period of time. Hopefully all of the defensive and str/conditioning coaches we hired this offseason can get it done. I think it was the right way to go.

"dhazer" wrote:



Sorry Steve i have to disagree on this one, that was the way to do it back in the 70's and 80's when there wasn't a free agency, that just don't work in this day and age. With free agency you will always be losing players to it no matter what so if we stay with the Ted Thompson plan we will always be rebuilding IMO.

"Stevetarded" wrote:



What have the Colts and Steelers been doing?

Last year, all 22 starters on the Colts had not played a snap on any other team. Their biggest FA signing in the past few years was a kicker.
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longtimefan
15 years ago
what we do know is

Minnesota, Washington, (who else?) have gone after and paid HUGE amounts for free agents..

and what has it got them?
Stevetarded
15 years ago

I have never been attracted to the "sign a big name guy" mentality. I would much rather see an improvement in the way the team develops the guys that we draft. It takes longer but it's the best way to build a franchise that can be successful over a long period of time. Hopefully all of the defensive and str/conditioning coaches we hired this offseason can get it done. I think it was the right way to go.

"dhazer" wrote:



Sorry Steve i have to disagree on this one, that was the way to do it back in the 70's and 80's when there wasn't a free agency, that just don't work in this day and age. With free agency you will always be losing players to it no matter what so if we stay with the Ted Thompson plan we will always be rebuilding IMO.

"Stevetarded" wrote:



What are you basing this on? Take a look at the Depth chart of the Steelers or Giants. Most of their starters are players that they drafted. A lot of them aren't even high draft picks.
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dhazer
15 years ago

I have never been attracted to the "sign a big name guy" mentality. I would much rather see an improvement in the way the team develops the guys that we draft. It takes longer but it's the best way to build a franchise that can be successful over a long period of time. Hopefully all of the defensive and str/conditioning coaches we hired this offseason can get it done. I think it was the right way to go.

"longtimefan" wrote:



Sorry Steve i have to disagree on this one, that was the way to do it back in the 70's and 80's when there wasn't a free agency, that just don't work in this day and age. With free agency you will always be losing players to it no matter what so if we stay with the Ted Thompson plan we will always be rebuilding IMO.

"dhazer" wrote:



how did NE and Pitt start in the last 8 years or so?

look up NE 1st SB win with Brady look at their players then do the same for Pitt with Big Ben


Up until just last 2 years did NE go after those higher priced f/a

and i do not think Pitt even went after those guys

"Stevetarded" wrote:




http://www.patriots.com/team/index.cfm?ac=2002Roster 
2001 pats had 29 free agents on their roster
2002 28 free agents


2005 Steelers had 26 players that werent drafted by them

2008 steelers had 34 players not drafted by the Steelers
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/pit/2008_roster.htm 

So i guess maybe that won't help your point sorry.



Added links to back up the facts.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
reed
dhazer
15 years ago

I have never been attracted to the "sign a big name guy" mentality. I would much rather see an improvement in the way the team develops the guys that we draft. It takes longer but it's the best way to build a franchise that can be successful over a long period of time. Hopefully all of the defensive and str/conditioning coaches we hired this offseason can get it done. I think it was the right way to go.

"Stevetarded" wrote:



Sorry Steve i have to disagree on this one, that was the way to do it back in the 70's and 80's when there wasn't a free agency, that just don't work in this day and age. With free agency you will always be losing players to it no matter what so if we stay with the Ted Thompson plan we will always be rebuilding IMO.

"dhazer" wrote:



What are you basing this on? Take a look at the Depth chart of the Steelers or Giants. Most of their starters are players that they drafted. A lot of them aren't even high draft picks.

"Stevetarded" wrote:





2008 Steelers 10 of the 26 starters werent drafted by the Steelers

2007 Giants 17 of the 26 starters werent drafted by the Giants
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyg/2007_roster.htm 



next?
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
reed
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