Zero - I know you're trying to piss off Ted Thompson-haters out there with this thread, but let's be realistic. It's year #5. We BETTER have a winning record this year.
I think all this Ted Thompson love is premature. If we make a deep run in the Playoffs in '09, then I'll believe. He's yet to make me a believer. That 14-4 year almost seems like a fluke. And no, I don't blame him for the 4-12 year. That was also a fluke. I've never seen a team that injured.
This is what I see - 8-8, 14-4, 6-10. Better than average, but let's not start bragging until we start producing. Or am I being too realistic? Let's not forget, we're Packers fans, not Vikings fans. We should have bigger standards.
"Zero2Cool" wrote:
Here we ago again with someone mistakenly thinking they know what I am thinking, jeepers...
Ted love? You outta read more of my posts about Ted ;)
Bragging? Wow, seriously, READ some of my posts, please! My gosh.
I heard something on the radio that made me think about this which is why I posted it. Are we a better team NOW than when Ted got here? No he has not brought in a desired amount of talent from the FA pool, but who has he let go that hurt us? There has to be some, if not at least a handful.
It's hard to accurately say we should be grabbing up FA's more now than we did 10 years ago because of the talent pool available and the ungodly amount of money being dished out.
I think Ted does well on the draft and talent scouting. When it comes to being able to SELL his team to a player, I think he fails miserably. To get Woodson we had to throw a lot of cha ching at him to persuade him.
We are where we were pre Reggie White and lots of Ted haters refuse to acknowledge that. We are NOT someplace players WANT to go to.
The bad thing is, there is NOT another Reggie White lurking around the corner to lure in with big bucks to help dissuade that misconception that GB is a craphole, or however other plays view it.
Our CURRENT players need to speak UP and OUT to other players to help Ted with these guys.
Another thing. I think Ted fails on trades. Instead of pulling a trigger on say sending a 3rd instead of a 4th rounder to get a player, he'll sit back an wait to see if the 4th is good enough. If someone else comes in and offers a 3rd he backs off. No, I am NOT referring to Moss. The Packers (this has been confirmed several times) felt they had Moss for I believe a 4th or 5th rounder when day one ended. The Patriots came in, offered a better pick and didn't give the Packers a chance to match or increase.
I'm talking more so with the Tony G type of trade or potential trade. True, Chiefs ended up sticking it to us, but that's what I'm talking about. Be proactive, not reactive.
Target a player, do what it takes to get them. Don't just wait and see if they fall into our damn lap.
Maybe he has been targeting players and they just aren't falling in for us? Who knows. Maybe Reggie McKenzie just isn't convincing enough to get players here for a visit?
All I know is we need to sell Green Bay to potential players FAR better than we have in recent years. I read comments about other players saying they don't want to come to GB cuz its cold, no night clubs, etc.
Green Bay is a awesome town and we have BY FAR the best fans. If some of the players would step up and help, we'd be able to bring other players in far easier.
Seems to me everyone is waiting for another Reggie White signing to do all the work for them.
"zombieslayer" wrote: