PackersNation
2 years ago

It's not silly, it's a fact. And that is OK! He made an impact after a handful of games. Nothing to shy away from. But he did not beast from the jump, because that would mean Week 1. He didn't even earn a starting spot until like Week 5.

JONATHAN FORD FOR ROOKIE OF THE YEAR!!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Clay played in all 16 and had some impact in each one. He didn't suck in the 3 games he didn't start as a rookie. Started 13 games. Named NFC Defensive Rookie Of The Year. Impact! If you want to break down the tape of those 3 games he didn't start, but played, then we can do that. I can get access to them. Impact was there. No, he didn't have 50 sacks in them. Stats aren't the only thing that equal impact.

It's ok to be wrong! Like you said, you do not try to claim you are always right.😏

#SamoriToureOnThe53!
Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Clay played in all 16 and had some impact in each one. He didn't suck in the 3 games he didn't start as a rookie. Started 13 games. Named NFC Defensive Rookie Of The Year. Impact! If you want to break down the tape of those 3 games he didn't start, but played, then we can do that. I can get access to them. Impact was there. No, he didn't have 50 sacks in them. Stats aren't the only thing that equal impact.

It's ok to be wrong! Like you said, you do not try to claim you are always right.😏

#SamoriToureOnThe53!

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 



I'm not disputing he didn't have a good year. I'm simply pointing out the failure in understanding the verbiage you're using. I like how you say he didn't suck first three games as if someone said anything close to that. I simply said he was not a beast from the first jump. That's all. Follow along with YOUR words before trying to put words into my mouth.

BTW, JONATHAN FORD FOR ROOKIE OF THE YEAR!!! Buwahahahahah

PS, Ford probably gonna be cut before end of preseason, lol.
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bboystyle
2 years ago

I'm not disputing he didn't have a good year. I'm simply pointing out the failure in understanding the verbiage you're using. I like how you say he didn't suck first three games as if someone said anything close to that. I simply said he was not a beast from the first jump. That's all. Follow along with YOUR words before trying to put words into my mouth.

BTW, JONATHAN FORD FOR ROOKIE OF THE YEAR!!! Buwahahahahah

PS, Ford probably gonna be cut before end of preseason, lol.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Making an impact your first year still is considered an impact player. Doesnt matter if he started to catch fire in week 1 or week 6. He was clearly our best pass rusher and caused havoc from the moment he took the field.
Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Making an impact your first year still is considered an impact player. Doesnt matter if he started to catch fire in week 1 or week 6. He was clearly our best pass rusher and caused havoc from the moment he took the field.

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 



When someone says "He was a beast from the jump", that means Week 1-2, not a quarter or almost halfway into the season.

I wouldn't be so quick to say he was clearly our best pass rusher. I believe Aaron Kampman was right up there with QB pressures and getting into the backfield. Even though I think Kampman was not a fan of standing up on the edge, lol.

And yes, making an impact your first year is an impact player. I'm not sure what nonsense I said that lead you to say that to me, but I suppose we can talk in circles. Kind of a dull period in the football world. 😁
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PackersNation
2 years ago

When someone says "He was a beast from the jump", that means Week 1-2, not a quarter or almost halfway into the season.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Clay indeed had immediate impact on the defense. From week 1. He had his first sack in week 2, but week one he looked impactful out there. Again, stats don't tell the full story of a players impact on a defense. Clay was a beast from the jump!

You may be thinking in week 4 when Clay stripped Adrian Peterson and returned it for a TD was the first "impact" he had. That just isn't the case.

The defense was better the moment Clay first walked on the grass in week one of 2009.

The Packers indeed did make the playoffs that year, due in large part to the beast that walked onto the grass in week 1.
Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Clay indeed had immediate impact on the defense. From week 1. He had his first sack in week 2, but week one he looked impactful out there. Again, stats don't tell the full story of a players impact on a defense. Clay was a beast from the jump!

You may be thinking in week 4 when Clay stripped Adrian Peterson and returned it for a TD was the first "impact" he had. That just isn't the case.

The defense was better the moment Clay first walked on the grass in week one of 2009.

The Packers indeed did make the playoffs that year, due in large part to the beast that walked onto the grass in week 1.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 



I really thought we had a good chance in 2009. I think that was the year Finley was coming on too.
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PackersNation
2 years ago

I really thought we had a good chance in 2009. I think that was the year Finley was coming on too.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yes, the Pack should have won that Cardinals playoff game. That was a great game, but a tough one to lose. That team was good enough to win it all. And did one year later.
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