porky88
16 years ago

First step, yeah, but with a 4.89 40-yard dash, that first step won't help you that much.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



When are pass rushers running 40 yards down field?

I much rather watch a defensive end's first step and how quick and how he accelerates than watching him run 40 yards down field. If he's running 40 yards down field then he's probably chasing someone.

The 40 is rather overrated at some positions. I think you need a good 40 to play corner in the NFL, but beyond that I'm not sure you need elite speed to play any other position.
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thetombradyhater
16 years ago
Porky covered the important stuff, but I will say I was shocked to se Mack and Beanie in the top 10
Packers_Finland
16 years ago

First step, yeah, but with a 4.89 40-yard dash, that first step won't help you that much.

"porky88" wrote:



When are pass rushers running 40 yards down field?

I much rather watch a defensive end's first step and how quick and how he accelerates than watching him run 40 yards down field. If he's running 40 yards down field then he's probably chasing someone.

The 40 is rather overrated at some positions. I think you need a good 40 to play corner in the NFL, but beyond that I'm not sure you need elite speed to play any other position.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



But you quickly lose the advantage of a quick first step if you're slower than other players at the same position. I think even though he starts fast, Orakpo would still get to the QB faster.
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porky88
16 years ago

First step, yeah, but with a 4.89 40-yard dash, that first step won't help you that much.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



When are pass rushers running 40 yards down field?

I much rather watch a defensive end's first step and how quick and how he accelerates than watching him run 40 yards down field. If he's running 40 yards down field then he's probably chasing someone.

The 40 is rather overrated at some positions. I think you need a good 40 to play corner in the NFL, but beyond that I'm not sure you need elite speed to play any other position.

"porky88" wrote:



But you quickly lose the advantage of a quick first step if you're slower than other players at the same position. I think even though he starts fast, Orakpo would still get to the QB faster.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



I like Orakpo better too, but you have Maybin out of round one entirely which I don't think happens. I think Orakpo goes 5 to 12 and Maybin goes 9 to 16.
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Packers_Finland
16 years ago

First step, yeah, but with a 4.89 40-yard dash, that first step won't help you that much.

"porky88" wrote:



When are pass rushers running 40 yards down field?

I much rather watch a defensive end's first step and how quick and how he accelerates than watching him run 40 yards down field. If he's running 40 yards down field then he's probably chasing someone.

The 40 is rather overrated at some positions. I think you need a good 40 to play corner in the NFL, but beyond that I'm not sure you need elite speed to play any other position.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



But you quickly lose the advantage of a quick first step if you're slower than other players at the same position. I think even though he starts fast, Orakpo would still get to the QB faster.

"porky88" wrote:



I like Orakpo better too, but you have Maybin out of round one entirely which I don't think happens. I think Orakpo goes 5 to 12 and Maybin goes 9 to 16.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



Actually, I've ranked Maybin as 18 to 30, but just don't see any of the teams there picking him. Maybe when I do another mock when the FA period cools down, he may find his way in.
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porky88
16 years ago

First step, yeah, but with a 4.89 40-yard dash, that first step won't help you that much.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



When are pass rushers running 40 yards down field?

I much rather watch a defensive end's first step and how quick and how he accelerates than watching him run 40 yards down field. If he's running 40 yards down field then he's probably chasing someone.

The 40 is rather overrated at some positions. I think you need a good 40 to play corner in the NFL, but beyond that I'm not sure you need elite speed to play any other position.

"porky88" wrote:



But you quickly lose the advantage of a quick first step if you're slower than other players at the same position. I think even though he starts fast, Orakpo would still get to the QB faster.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



I like Orakpo better too, but you have Maybin out of round one entirely which I don't think happens. I think Orakpo goes 5 to 12 and Maybin goes 9 to 16.

"porky88" wrote:



Actually, I've ranked Maybin as 18 to 30, but just don't see any of the teams there picking him. Maybe when I do another mock when the FA period cools down, he may find his way in.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



I think Cleveland, Green Bay, Buffalo, Denver, Washington, Houston, San Diego, Chicago, Baltimore, Miami, New England, Tennessee, Philadelphia, and Detroit all probably look at him.

I know what you're saying though. I find myself having a hard time figuring out where the running backs are going this year as nobody is really "elite" in my opinion.
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Packers_Finland
16 years ago
New England could be a potential destination, seeing as they just shipped off their #1 OLB.
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AJistheHawk50
16 years ago
here is my top 20 first round - same thing hit me up with feedback

1. Detroit Lions Matt Stafford QB
2. St Louis Rams Andre Smith OT
3. Kansas City Chiefs Eugene Monroe OT
4. Seattle Seahawks Crabtree WR
5. Cleveland Browns BJ Raji DT
6. Cincinnati Bengals Michael Oher OT
7. Oakland Aaron Curry OLB
8. Jacksonville Jason Smith OT
9. Green Bay Brian Orakpo OLB
10. San Francisco Mark Sanchez QB
11. Buffalo Bills Rey Maulaga ILB
12. Denver Broncos Brian Cushing OLB
13. Washington Redskins James Laurinitais ILB
14. New Orleans Saints Chris Beanie Wells HB
15. Houston Texans Malcom Jenkins CB/Safety
16. San Diego Chargers Jeremy Maclin WR
17. New York Jets Josh Freeman QB
18. Chicago Bears Darrius Hayward-Bey WR
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Max Unger C
20. Detroit Lions Brandon Pettigrew TE

im going out on a limb with pettigrew i sorta knwo that i like him though
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GermanGilbert
16 years ago
I'm pretty sure that andre smith is not the first OT taken in the draft.
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AJistheHawk50
16 years ago
yeah i did most of it before the combine i think jason smith will be the first one taken
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