NFL rookie grades, NFC North: Lions quartet stars; Packers boosted by...

macbob
Veteran Member Topic Starter

a year ago

Detroit led the NFC North with an A- grade, and Green Bay was second with a B+ grade.

Not sure I agree completely, as Detroit's grade was awarded solely on their 1st and 2nd round picks (4 players, 3 of them selected before GB's 2nd pick), where GB's rookies from rounds 1-7 were first-year contributors.

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Mucky Tundra
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a year ago

Originally Posted by: macbob

Even after a successful first year, I'm still not buying the "Gibbs at 12" was a good move. I saw a lot of football Twitter accounts use the Lions success this season as proof the pick worked out well but it feels like a lot of the guys taken in the teens and early twenties would have helped out more in the long run vis a vis roster needs. For example, going with Gonzalez+Campbell, Gonzalez+Kancey or LVN+Flowers.

Edit: legit forgot they drafted Williams the year before

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macbob
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a year ago

USAToday's Packerswire evaluates Packers 2023 Rookies after 1st year.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/reviewing-packers-impressive-rookie-draft-class-in-2023/

Spoiler alert: All were rated in the top 10 rookies at their positions except for two (#11 & #13 rookies at their positions), with 3 not playing enough to be rated.

macbob
Veteran Member Topic Starter

a year ago

And CBS Sports does the same. Spoiler Alert: Ranked Packers Rookie class #2 of the 32 teams. Take that with a healthy grain of salt--they rated all of the NFC North 2023 rookie drafts in the Top 10; with Lions #4, Bears #6, and Vikings #8.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ranking-2023-nfl-rookie-classes-after-year-1-texans-claim-top-spot-packers-rams-and-lions-crack-top-10/

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