2018
Josh Jackson, Oren Burks, J'Mon Moore, Cole Madison, and JK Scott were all selected between Alexander and MVS. All those guys are busts.

Originally Posted by: porky88 

2019
Elgton Jenkins was a stud. I think he's regressed since his knee injury. You can't blame Gutey for that, but they aren't getting the kind of play I think they thought they were going to get when they signed him to a second contract. I have a hunch he could be back to form next year

Originally Posted by: porky88 

2020
Jon Runyan Jr - He probably gets a second contract. He's a serviceable guard. Every team has a guy like him as a starter. He's someone you can depend on to play, but you wouldn't want him to be one of your 5 best players on offense.

Originally Posted by: porky88 

Quay Walker is fast. That's it. He tackles too high and the mental mistakes are disconcerting.

Devonte Wyatt I like. It takes DL longer to adjust to the game (unless your Kenny Clark).

Originally Posted by: porky88 

He may be the best potential player on this team, but he has not played like that. He has misses run fits often and is slow to realize who is in his zone when we are in zone coverage.

He is not even the best linebacker on this team.

He may be the an All-Pro someday but he has been mistake prone.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 

Porky you have some of the best posts year after year. I respect the fact that you laid out your assessment of the draft on a player by player basis. For the most part I either agree with your comments or at the very least don't feel compelled to dispute them.

Out of curiosity I went to the football reference page to look at the rushing leaders. I was trying to see where Jones is all time. Back in TC I remember thinking if he had a really really good year he might put himself into a position to move up the list. After missing so many games and then playing sparingly in his other games he won't achieve MY goal this year. He has 5480 rushing yards. Ahman Green and Jim Taylor are both over 8200. I don't see Jones being able to pass them without playing at least 3 more seasons. That doesn't seem likely.

My comment to you is- after looking at Jones' numbers I decided to look at Dillon. I was a little surprised to see he is #19 overall with 2121 yards. While it is true that he was a 2nd round selection, I don't see how he can be called a bust when he is in the top 20 for a franchise that has been around for more than 100 years. He has had around 800 yards the past two seasons. If he meets that this year he will slip between Eddie Lee Ivery and James Starks at #16. That's respectable. Not a world beater but it is respectable at least to me.

Dillon has had only 3 fumbles in his career. Only Clarke Hinkle had fewer. In 1171 attempts, he NEVER fumbled the ball. If I expand the pool out to look at the top 25 only Jamaal Williams can claim to have never fumbled. His 4.1 average is respectable when compared to the rest of the top 20. His TDs are lacking a little but I believe that is because he plays behind Jones. His 40 yards per game average is 10th among this group. That is somewhat skewed because QBs Rodgers and Tobin Rote are in this top 20 group. Then again so are Hall of Famer Tony Canadeo with 36.2, Dorsey Levens 38.6, Clarke Hinkle 34.2 and Gerry Ellis at 37.1 all are top 10 in total yards for the Packers.

In short- I would say that I hoped for more from Quadzilla when he was drafted but I would not put him into the bust camp. I would say he will be a "B" to "C" player for the Packers when he is done. Which would bring up an interesting discussion. Who are the overall "A" RB for GB? I would say it goes down as far as Paul Hornung at #10. He has 3711 yards. It's kind of difficult to say Ivery at 2933 would be too. But he is only #15. Surely the team has had 15 RB that merit being called "A" talent. Not Hall of Fame but, for the time they were in GB, they earned an "A" grade.

Originally Posted by: wpr 

He is a combine star. He tests very well, which makes him look great on paper. However, he lacks discipline, and makes way too many mental mistakes. Who shoves an assistant coach? Who shoves a trainer tending to an injured player?

Originally Posted by: porky88 

He is a combine star. He tests very well, which makes him look great on paper. However, he lacks discipline, and makes way too many mental mistakes. Who shoves an assistant coach? Who shoves a trainer tending to an injured player?

Originally Posted by: porky88 

As for Kenny Clark hype. I just can't get on board with that. He doesn't win one vs one enough and he's not doubled enough to merit the praise. I don't think he's a blue chip player on the field. He is not consistent enough for that.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

No one, not even Walker... because that's not what actually happened.

The injured player, Walkers college teammate, was already being tended to, and having kind words being exchanged between the college teammates.

The extra trainer didn't have to put his hands on Walker, just like Walker didn't have to put his hands on the trainer.

Originally Posted by: beast 

I think this analysis is a little too hard. Yes, he was a rookie making extremely boneheaded mistake ... TWICE. But there's a thing called redemption and so far this season he's play has improved. I would still like to see him rush the passer like he did last year. I think using him there once in awhile is a good use of his athleticism.

As for Kenny Clark hype. I just can't get on board with that. He doesn't win one vs one enough and he's not doubled enough to merit the praise. I don't think he's a blue chip player on the field. He is not consistent enough for that.

As for Rashan Gary. Only blue chipper on defense in my opinion. Jaire Alexander has dropped off.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I see Gutekunst scouted the Michigan/Penn State game yesterday.
No doubt in my mind he’ll be drafting JJ McCarthy as per my wishes.😁

Originally Posted by: yooperfan