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Martha Careful
a year ago
Gentlemen,

Thank you for posting to this site and for the opinions you share and disagreements we have.

It is when times are tough, and being a fan is tough, that we should really appreciate that we all care, Why, I don't know 🙂 !!!

But this site is healthy for me as it is an outlet to my Packer frustrations.

So thanks and keep posting...and remember....we all care

Martha
Go Packers!!!!
wpr
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a year ago
Most excellent. I can't recall one of your posts that did not make me think. I haven't always agreed but I do enjoy your insight.
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Zero2Cool
a year ago
Ladies and Gentlemen. We have a few ladies around these sticks.

But this site is healthy for me as it is an outlet to my Packer frustrations.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 


As for healthy -- I would have to say it's counter to my health. I'm sure it's self-inflicted, but sure feels like I got a target on my back at times. And that feeling (accurate or not) has me avoiding the site a lot. I know I'm not perfect and I try to make amends for my f-ups, but damn, it just feels like it piles on and on and on at times. Trying to improve can be so daunting when others make your efforts feel like you're emptying a gallon bucket of water trying to save the Titanic.

I am glad that it does help others. I didn't create the site for me so even if PH isn't my cup of tea anymore, it was never meant to be. I mainly wanted a place where fans could speak their mind without feeling "unsafe" like they'd be attacked for a potentially dumb thought/opinion. I wanted a place where we could educate and inform one another rather than display our insecurities by pushing others down to prop ourselves up on a pedestal to make ourselves feel better for a slight moment.

I wanted the mantra to be something like that saying of 'if I'm wrong, educate me. Don't belittle me' and lord knows I have failed that myself. Hopefully I can get some vacation time and maybe figure out a new direction for the website and maybe lure some unsuspecting humans on-board. If it comes to paying for advertising to get people here ... I will do that. Providing it is the right people, or at we at least have the right core of people here to guide them and welcome them.
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Martha Careful
a year ago

Ladies and Gentlemen. We have a few ladies around these sticks.

As for healthy -- I would have to say it's counter to my health. I'm sure it's self-inflicted, but sure feels like I got a target on my back at times. And that feeling (accurate or not) has me avoiding the site a lot. I know I'm not perfect and I try to make amends for my f-ups, but damn, it just feels like it piles on and on and on at times. Trying to improve can be so daunting when others make your efforts feel like you're emptying a gallon bucket of water trying to save the Titanic.

I am glad that it does help others. I didn't create the site for me so even if PH isn't my cup of tea anymore, it was never meant to be. I mainly wanted a place where fans could speak their mind without feeling "unsafe" like they'd be attacked for a potentially dumb thought/opinion. I wanted a place where we could educate and inform one another rather than display our insecurities by pushing others down to prop ourselves up on a pedestal to make ourselves feel better for a slight moment.

I wanted the mantra to be something like that saying of 'if I'm wrong, educate me. Don't belittle me' and lord knows I have failed that myself. Hopefully I can get some vacation time and maybe figure out a new direction for the website and maybe lure some unsuspecting humans on-board. If it comes to paying for advertising to get people here ... I will do that. Providing it is the right people, or at we at least have the right core of people here to guide them and welcome them.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I for one enjoy your posts and perspectives. You are consistently a great counterbalance to those of us who take it too far in one direction or another.

I would encourage you to keep posting.

And lets us all try to argue ideas not to personalize....and yes, I should have said Ladies and Gentlemen

Go Packers!!!!
wpr
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a year ago
Kevin you have done an amazing job. This isn't your full time job. Good thing because the pay is horrible. This is your baby so I hope you are always proud of what you accomplished here. Numbers of members aren't always the answer. I've seen too many places with more people and more conflict. It's always going to be there. We just have to all be vigilant to ask people to respect other members.
After frustrating losses I tend to go elsewhere. I don't like to wallow around. I don't like to see the dissension. Time is too short. Others like combativeness. I sort of get a kick out of fans' opinions. If Gutey would only get better players. If MLF would only call better plays. If the players would only execute. We can't change a single thing. Yet to listen and read all the comments you would like we have that ability.
C'est la vie.

Edit- Don't spend your hard earned money Kevin. Especially in a down season. If the Packers were undefeated there would be another 100 members posting tonight.
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dfosterf
a year ago

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Zero2Cool
a year ago

I would encourage you to keep posting.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 


It'd be nice if folks were as quick to follow lead on the positives as they are to point outy negatives. I try to lead by example, but it seems the 9 good examples get dismissed, but the one I screw up and it's like "well you did it!!!"

That's a frustrating aspect to this. It's almost like I have to be inhuman, perfect, without any flaw whatsoever. It's a struggle. I just want to be a fan that talks ball with others. Maybe open minds. Maybe have my mind open.
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wpr
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a year ago

It'd be nice if folks were as quick to follow lead on the positives as they are to point outy negatives. I try to lead by example, but it seems the 9 good examples get dismissed, but the one I screw up and it's like "well you did it!!!"

That's a frustrating aspect to this. It's almost like I have to be inhuman, perfect, without any flaw whatsoever. It's a struggle. I just want to be a fan that talks ball with others. Maybe open minds. Maybe have my mind open.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




You can't beat the humanity out of humans. We are flawed. We ignore the goodness and latch on to the negative. All you have to do is look at the news for the last 100 years. They might put one "good news" item on at the end of the show. The rest is filled with the no so good.

I listened to a public motivator's cassette tape (yes it was a long time ago.) When he started he went into vivid detail as to why he was late getting to his appearance. There was an accident on the expressway. Traffic backed up for miles. The fatalities involved. Ambulances and first responders that were on the scene. I could see it all. He went on to tell his audience that he made it all up. Yet he knew they could see it. That's how we are wired.

It's frustrating to be sure. Don't try to be perfect. Try to be the best you. Don't do it for us, this site or even your family. Do it for you.
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Mucky Tundra (16h) : Stinks for Lloyd. Hoping he comes back strong for next year
Zero2Cool (3-Jan) : Packers placed Marshawn Lloyd on reserve non-football illness list
Zero2Cool (3-Jan) : Luke Getsy been helping Packers defense. He's former OC Bears/Raiders and our old QB coach
beast (2-Jan) : Thanks dfosterf, I'm still kicking myself for last week, as I forgot to change to pick Vikings and Lions... after putting in a holding spot.
Zero2Cool (2-Jan) : First alternate: Elgton Jenkins Other alternates: Jordan Love, Kenny Clark, Keisean Nixon, Tucker Kraft, Josh Myers, Jaire Alexander
Zero2Cool (2-Jan) : Pro Bowl still a thing? Guess Packers have three. Jacobs, Gary, McKinney.
dfosterf (2-Jan) : It's a mine field with all the players sitting, etc
dfosterf (2-Jan) : There was quite a bit of "chalk" matchups this year it seemed, but not this week coming up
Zero2Cool (2-Jan) : Or we got better and by we I mean everyone except me
Zero2Cool (2-Jan) : We have about six that by percent would have won nearly any season. I guess 2024 was predictable 🤷
Zero2Cool (2-Jan) : You can check previous seasons. I quick did it and don't think anyone hit 70% before
dfosterf (2-Jan) : Hats off to the Beast
dfosterf (2-Jan) : I'm at 71.76% in pick 'em. 2nd place. Beast is at a flat 75% 9 games ahead. That 75% has got to be unprecedented this late in the season
beast (2-Jan) : I don't care deeply, just want some good entertaining games
Zero2Cool (2-Jan) : BTW, not serious.
Zero2Cool (2-Jan) : You don't care about it either!!!!
Zero2Cool (2-Jan) : NIL and Portal killed college, no one cares about it.
Mucky Tundra (2-Jan) : outside of Texas-Arizona St, it's been a snoozefest
beast (2-Jan) : I expect Georgia will change that tomorrow, but we'll have to wait and see. If they do, then only Big 10 and SEC are left.
beast (2-Jan) : So much for Conference Championship meaning something as 100% (so far) of the conference Champions lost their first playoff game.
Zero2Cool (1-Jan) : Jaire had surgery, season over.
Mucky Tundra (1-Jan) : I guess I need a new sig Pic. Boo
Mucky Tundra (1-Jan) : Eric Dickerson approves of this decision
beast (1-Jan) : Eagles are resting RB Saquon Barkley, so there is no chance he breaks the record despite being just 101 yards from it
Zero2Cool (1-Jan) : Patriots are waiving veteran pass rusher Yannick Ngakoue
beast (1-Jan) : Happy New Year's 🥳🎉
beast (31-Dec) : I want to them chant some songs for Daniel Whelan
beast (31-Dec) : Let's win one! Also, hopefully the Irish will stand with Daniel Whelan
Mucky Tundra (31-Dec) : After London and Brazil, I could go without an overseas game for a while
Zero2Cool (31-Dec) : Packers. Steelers. Ireland. 2025. Reports say.
Zero2Cool (30-Dec) : Matt Lafleur on if Jaire will play again this season. "Yeah I don't know... he's been dealing with swelling."
Mucky Tundra (30-Dec) : After the way they played for most of the game yesterday, I don't see how you can sit anyone for the whole game
Zero2Cool (30-Dec) : I'd say play everyone. Going into playoffs at 7th seed on two game lose streak - yucky
Zero2Cool (30-Dec) : Do the Packers have any best players?
beast (30-Dec) : Play or Rest*
beast (30-Dec) : Should the Packers play or free their best players vs the Bears?
Zero2Cool (30-Dec) : Packers should be 3 - 2 in the Division. Bonkers being swept by both Lions and Vikings. yikes
go.pack.go. (30-Dec) : All crazy stuff…and good point beast
beast (30-Dec) : Packers should be 0-5 in the division, can't say I saw that coming, even 1-4
Zero2Cool (30-Dec) : Sam Darnold 35 TD's ... another one
Zero2Cool (30-Dec) : Baker Mayfield, 39 TD's ... can't say I saw that one
Zero2Cool (30-Dec) : No matter who is playing as 7th, I think we want them to win. Get rid of 2nd seed haha
go.pack.go. (30-Dec) : That would be dhazer who was rooting for Minnesota
beast (30-Dec) : Well, Commanders are currently the 6th seed and Packers the 7th
beast (30-Dec) : Who was it in Chat, that wanted the Vikings to win (because Lions fans upset them) because Packers could not lose the 6th seed?
beast (30-Dec) : If Falcons win, Packers stay as the 6th seed and Falcons lead the NFCS, if they lose, Commanders 6th and Bucs take NFCS lead
beast (30-Dec) : Win or Loss, the NFCS is going down to week 18
Mucky Tundra (30-Dec) : if the Falcons win, how does that affect the overall NFC playoff picture? Does it mean that the NFC South comes down to week 18?
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