Martha Careful
a year ago
Gentlemen,

Thank you for posting to this site and for the opinions you share and disagreements we have.

It is when times are tough, and being a fan is tough, that we should really appreciate that we all care, Why, I don't know 🙂 !!!

But this site is healthy for me as it is an outlet to my Packer frustrations.

So thanks and keep posting...and remember....we all care

Martha
Go Packers!!!!
wpr
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a year ago
Most excellent. I can't recall one of your posts that did not make me think. I haven't always agreed but I do enjoy your insight.
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Zero2Cool
a year ago
Ladies and Gentlemen. We have a few ladies around these sticks.

But this site is healthy for me as it is an outlet to my Packer frustrations.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 


As for healthy -- I would have to say it's counter to my health. I'm sure it's self-inflicted, but sure feels like I got a target on my back at times. And that feeling (accurate or not) has me avoiding the site a lot. I know I'm not perfect and I try to make amends for my f-ups, but damn, it just feels like it piles on and on and on at times. Trying to improve can be so daunting when others make your efforts feel like you're emptying a gallon bucket of water trying to save the Titanic.

I am glad that it does help others. I didn't create the site for me so even if PH isn't my cup of tea anymore, it was never meant to be. I mainly wanted a place where fans could speak their mind without feeling "unsafe" like they'd be attacked for a potentially dumb thought/opinion. I wanted a place where we could educate and inform one another rather than display our insecurities by pushing others down to prop ourselves up on a pedestal to make ourselves feel better for a slight moment.

I wanted the mantra to be something like that saying of 'if I'm wrong, educate me. Don't belittle me' and lord knows I have failed that myself. Hopefully I can get some vacation time and maybe figure out a new direction for the website and maybe lure some unsuspecting humans on-board. If it comes to paying for advertising to get people here ... I will do that. Providing it is the right people, or at we at least have the right core of people here to guide them and welcome them.
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Martha Careful
a year ago

Ladies and Gentlemen. We have a few ladies around these sticks.

As for healthy -- I would have to say it's counter to my health. I'm sure it's self-inflicted, but sure feels like I got a target on my back at times. And that feeling (accurate or not) has me avoiding the site a lot. I know I'm not perfect and I try to make amends for my f-ups, but damn, it just feels like it piles on and on and on at times. Trying to improve can be so daunting when others make your efforts feel like you're emptying a gallon bucket of water trying to save the Titanic.

I am glad that it does help others. I didn't create the site for me so even if PH isn't my cup of tea anymore, it was never meant to be. I mainly wanted a place where fans could speak their mind without feeling "unsafe" like they'd be attacked for a potentially dumb thought/opinion. I wanted a place where we could educate and inform one another rather than display our insecurities by pushing others down to prop ourselves up on a pedestal to make ourselves feel better for a slight moment.

I wanted the mantra to be something like that saying of 'if I'm wrong, educate me. Don't belittle me' and lord knows I have failed that myself. Hopefully I can get some vacation time and maybe figure out a new direction for the website and maybe lure some unsuspecting humans on-board. If it comes to paying for advertising to get people here ... I will do that. Providing it is the right people, or at we at least have the right core of people here to guide them and welcome them.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I for one enjoy your posts and perspectives. You are consistently a great counterbalance to those of us who take it too far in one direction or another.

I would encourage you to keep posting.

And lets us all try to argue ideas not to personalize....and yes, I should have said Ladies and Gentlemen

Go Packers!!!!
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a year ago
Kevin you have done an amazing job. This isn't your full time job. Good thing because the pay is horrible. This is your baby so I hope you are always proud of what you accomplished here. Numbers of members aren't always the answer. I've seen too many places with more people and more conflict. It's always going to be there. We just have to all be vigilant to ask people to respect other members.
After frustrating losses I tend to go elsewhere. I don't like to wallow around. I don't like to see the dissension. Time is too short. Others like combativeness. I sort of get a kick out of fans' opinions. If Gutey would only get better players. If MLF would only call better plays. If the players would only execute. We can't change a single thing. Yet to listen and read all the comments you would like we have that ability.
C'est la vie.

Edit- Don't spend your hard earned money Kevin. Especially in a down season. If the Packers were undefeated there would be another 100 members posting tonight.
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dfosterf
a year ago

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Zero2Cool
a year ago

I would encourage you to keep posting.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 


It'd be nice if folks were as quick to follow lead on the positives as they are to point outy negatives. I try to lead by example, but it seems the 9 good examples get dismissed, but the one I screw up and it's like "well you did it!!!"

That's a frustrating aspect to this. It's almost like I have to be inhuman, perfect, without any flaw whatsoever. It's a struggle. I just want to be a fan that talks ball with others. Maybe open minds. Maybe have my mind open.
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a year ago

It'd be nice if folks were as quick to follow lead on the positives as they are to point outy negatives. I try to lead by example, but it seems the 9 good examples get dismissed, but the one I screw up and it's like "well you did it!!!"

That's a frustrating aspect to this. It's almost like I have to be inhuman, perfect, without any flaw whatsoever. It's a struggle. I just want to be a fan that talks ball with others. Maybe open minds. Maybe have my mind open.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




You can't beat the humanity out of humans. We are flawed. We ignore the goodness and latch on to the negative. All you have to do is look at the news for the last 100 years. They might put one "good news" item on at the end of the show. The rest is filled with the no so good.

I listened to a public motivator's cassette tape (yes it was a long time ago.) When he started he went into vivid detail as to why he was late getting to his appearance. There was an accident on the expressway. Traffic backed up for miles. The fatalities involved. Ambulances and first responders that were on the scene. I could see it all. He went on to tell his audience that he made it all up. Yet he knew they could see it. That's how we are wired.

It's frustrating to be sure. Don't try to be perfect. Try to be the best you. Don't do it for us, this site or even your family. Do it for you.
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