nerdmann
a year ago
Seems like all this criticism got into his head. Might be pressing a little bit. Almost seems like he worked out the day before the game, didn't have a day's rest or something. At least he didn't pull a hammy!


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TheKanataThrilla
a year ago
I see a couple of issues with Dillon. First they are still handing him the ball off out of shotgun too much which has never worked for him. We also have seen penetration by the opposing D on many of his runs where they are already in the backfield when he has the ball. He cannot cut outside like Jones. He is not nimble or fast enough.

We need to run him from a QB under Center with a full head of steam. This also means that our Center and Right or Left Guard have to create that hole for him to run through. Myers seems to be lousy at run blocking.

I do think if Jones is on a pitch count that perhaps we should dress 3 or 4 RBs when Taylor is called up. I am curious as to what Wilson can provide against the #1s or was he just a preseason darling.

Week 1 was certainly not what Dillon's agent wanted to see going into a contract year.
beast
a year ago

I see a couple of issues with Dillon. First they are still handing him the ball off out of shotgun too much which has never worked for him. We also have seen penetration by the opposing D on many of his runs where they are already in the backfield when he has the ball. He cannot cut outside like Jones. He is not nimble or fast enough.

We need to run him from a QB under Center with a full head of steam. This also means that our Center and Right or Left Guard have to create that hole for him to run through. Myers seems to be lousy at run blocking.

I do think if Jones is on a pitch count that perhaps we should dress 3 or 4 RBs when Taylor is called up. I am curious as to what Wilson can provide against the #1s or was he just a preseason darling.

Week 1 was certainly not what Dillon's agent wanted to see going into a contract year.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



Agreed with what was said above. And that brings up a great point, they were going very heavy shotgun which hurts the RBs momentum, especially bigger RBs with less acceleration. That might be a huge factor. Certain RBs have absolutely hated shotgun because of that, Adrian Peterson and Jerome "The Bus" Bettis come to mind. In fact, I remember (after retiring) Bettis telling one of his secret was to start even further back so he had more time to pick up that momentum, since he was a bigger guy and had a harder time accelerating.

Dillon had an absolutely horrible game, and from what I can tell, very little of it is his fault. The IOL got absolutely beat early and often with the DL meeting Dillon in the backfield, Dillon had zero chance unless he had excitability which is not his strength.

My question is why did the OL seem to be getting beat even worse when Dillon ran it though? It's possible that it's false, and only seemed that way because Jones is a lot more agile and can weave around defenders more. That, or the Bears picked up on some tell, from the one for the Packers players, possibly Dillon.

I know my Senior year, our RB wouldn't put his mouthpiece in on pass plays, and we'd freaking yell at him for it, as the defensive clearly picked up on it.


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nerdmann
a year ago

I see a couple of issues with Dillon. First they are still handing him the ball off out of shotgun too much which has never worked for him. We also have seen penetration by the opposing D on many of his runs where they are already in the backfield when he has the ball. He cannot cut outside like Jones. He is not nimble or fast enough.

We need to run him from a QB under Center with a full head of steam. This also means that our Center and Right or Left Guard have to create that hole for him to run through. Myers seems to be lousy at run blocking.

I do think if Jones is on a pitch count that perhaps we should dress 3 or 4 RBs when Taylor is called up. I am curious as to what Wilson can provide against the #1s or was he just a preseason darling.

Week 1 was certainly not what Dillon's agent wanted to see going into a contract year.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



Starts discussing Dillon at 18:45. 👍



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