What each team is still missing, potential solutions· Page 2

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

3 years ago

Really isn't that confusing lol.

The Packers signed Lazard(He signed it) to a 2nd round tender. He will play for the Packers for the 2022 season for 3.9 mill unless the Packers sign him to extension before the season.

He is though still a RFA and another team can offer him a contract but the Packers can match any offer or receive a 2nd round pick if it gets to that which it won't.

Got it? Kidding😋

Originally Posted by: PackerNation

Why isn't it listed as a transaction? Other players who signed have been listed, but you are saying Allen Lazard signed, yet, everything on the transaction wires show ... not yet signed.

This is why it is confusing. You can see other players listed as signed, but not Allen Lazard.
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Another set of transactions doesn't list that he signed it.
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Last season he waited until July 22 to sign.
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CBS seems updated quite a bit, they got Jaire, but not Allen Lazard. 🤷‍♂️
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This is confusing that you're pounding hard that he signed it, yet every source that lists transactions shows no such transaction been made. Quite confusing.

Spotract shows when the contract was assigned, but transaction of it being signed, no where to be found.
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PackersNation
Registered

3 years ago

#12

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

The Packers signed him to the tender in March. For that to happen Allen and the team both sign it. So when you heard in March that the Packers signed Allen Lazard to a 2nd round tender for 3.9 million that is what happened. Both parties signed it.

Florio started all this writing a article a while ago trying to start drama by saying the Packers shouldn't list Allen Lazard as one of their WRs. Florio is agenda based little shit stirrer that gets people to his gossip site by making crap up about the Packers and whoever else he thinks will put butts in the seats.

Nothing Mike Florio writes about the Packers is based in anything but trying to start up bullshit about the Packers so the fan base bites.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

3 years ago

#13

Originally Posted by: PackerNation

I didn't hear that in March. I heard that the Packers assigned a 2nd round tender. Everything I've read says Allen Lazard has yet to sign the tender. I wish I could remember where I read or where I heard that the tender automatically gets lowered if Allen doesn't sign it by a certain date.

beast
Select Member

3 years ago

#14

Originally Posted by: PackerNation

Nope, if an RFA sign, the they're no longer a FA, and other teams can no longer give him offers.

If he's signed with the team that gave the tender, then it's over, he's a signed played.

beast
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3 years ago

#15

When Lazard signs the contract, the Packers will move him from the RFA list to the main roster list...

Just like they have done for other FAs that resigned and the draft picks that have signed.

According to Packers.com, Lazard is not currently signed. They should know better than any of us.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

3 years ago

#16

This might be something to smack into a new topic, but here's what I'm reading about RFA.

Restricted free agent (RFA): A player with three accrued seasons and an expired contract. RFAs are free to negotiate and sign with any team, but their original team can offer them one of various qualifying offers ("tenders") that come with the right of first refusal and/or draft-pick compensation. If the tender is withdrawn by a team, the RFA becomes an unrestricted free agent. In 2021, teams must submit these tenders before 4 p.m. ET on March 17. These amounts change annually; the following numbers are for the 2021 season. Players can choose either (a) or (b) regardless of which is greater in the applicable tenders below.

Second-round tender: One-year contract worth the greater of (a) $3.384 million or (b) 110 percent of the player's prior-year base salary. Draft-choice compensation: second-round pick.

Adding this from Si.com makes me wonder if since he didn't negotiate a deal with another team by April 22nd, that he doesn't have to actually sign the tender, but for all intents and purposes ... is re-signed? The first part highlighted supports my thinking that once the tender is offered, it immediately is applied against the salary cap. Which can confuse some as he signed it.
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PackersNation
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3 years ago

#17

Waiting for a text back from Jon-Eric Sullivan, but my understanding is that both parties sign the 3.9 mill tender when it's applied.

I believe other teams can offer him a contract only until July 22nd. I am not sure when he is officially no longer considered a RFA. Jon-Eric is the one that would know better than us.

I do know for a fact the Packers have exclusive rights to match any offer that comes in. And also get a 2nd round pick if another team signs Allen.

The July 22nd and when he is officially no longer considered a RFA are the only two variables here.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

3 years ago

#18

Originally Posted by: PackerNation

Based on what Bill Huber wrote, it's April 22nd, but if true, why hasn't Lazard actually signed it? It sounds like there's no other real recourse, regardless of what I read/heard about the amount being lowered by a certain date. (since I can't recall where the hell I got that from, ugh).

PackersNation
Registered

3 years ago

#19

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

The July 22nd is the day before training camp starts. I believe you can not be a RFA once camp starts.

Sometimes he doesn't text me back for a couple days. He claims I am the one who never replies to texts. He is factual on that. I also understand he is quite busy.

bboystyle
Member

3 years ago

#20

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Because he hasnt. Packernation is wrong but is moving goalposts to protect his all knowing demeanor.

With that said, WR is still a question mark on this team until proven otherwise. Dont care what our record was with Adams out, no one on this team is as consistent at the WR position as Adams was. We dont even know if Tonyan will be 100% back to how he was. Cobb is old and often hurt as is Watkins. Lazard is another jag who took advantage of Adams being doubled. This team is entering the 2022 season hoping a rookie can contribute alongside a bunch of old injured players.

I said it before and ill say it again, we really need the run game to be effficent this season or this offense will be 2019 all over again

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