Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Biggest hole: Pass-catcher

The Packers have a decent amount of resources invested at wide receiver, but it still projects to be an incomplete unit in 2022. Allen Lazard and Randall Cobb both return, but neither moves the needle for any team. Free agent Sammy Watkins was a good add for depth and rotational purposes. Moreover, 2021 third-round pick Amari Rodgers hardly played at receiver last year and didn't play well as a punt returner, leaving his role in limbo.

Green Bay did add two rookies -- Christian Watson and Romeo Doubs -- but Aaron Rodgers' history with getting production out of rookies is not particularly impressive. It is an intriguing unit that is loaded in some sense of the word, but there is a lot left to be proved. While Rodgers can probably make it work anyway, it's a dangerous line to walk.

At tight end, Robert Tonyan is coming off a season-ending injury, is hardly being paid and is set to get loose from his contract after 2022. Marcedes Lewis is getting older, and former 2020 third-rounder Josiah Deguara has yet to come alive. If Tonyan is healthy, the unit will get by the same as it has before, but it's easy to see how this room could get a complete makeover soon.

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Packers have Aaron Jones in the backfield, Robert Tonyan is a good receiving tight end and they just used a higher end 2nd round pick on a WR that most of these clowns rated top 5-7 WR in the draft. Plus they have Cobb and most likely Lazard.
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Pugger
2 years ago

Packers have Aaron Jones in the backfield, Robert Tonyan is a good receiving tight end and they just used a higher end 2nd round pick on a WR that most of these clowns rated top 5-7 WR in the draft. Plus they have Cobb and most likely Lazard.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



But how soon will we see Tonyan on the field? We do have a big hole in the receivers department. Until these draft kids and Watkins connect with AR we might have to lean more on our D and ST to save the day earlier in the upcoming season.

PackersNation
2 years ago

But how soon will we see Tonyan on the field? We do have a big hole in the receivers department. Until these draft kids and Watkins connect with Aaron Rodgers we might have to lean more on our D and ST to save the day earlier in the upcoming season.

Originally Posted by: Pugger 



Bobby is 7 months into his rehab and way ahead of schedule. He had a clean tear which means much less than a year recovery. I know Bakh's timeline has everyone freaked out, but Dave had more than ACL, and it wasn't clean tear like Bobby's.

You also have Tyler Davis and Deguara if something weird happens and Bobby isn't good to go week 1 as is expected. I have no concerns at TE.

Not sure why some are acting like Lazard, Cobb, and Amari will account for zero WR production, and it's ALL dependent on the new guys. Keep in mind this team was 7-0 without Tae before Watkins, Watson, Doubs, and Toure came to town. It's LaFleur's offense that made Davante a superstar. I honestly am sick of hearing that this offense will be lesser without him. He is a loss, so is Z, but a massive hole that can not be filled now? Not even close. I haven't said this here yet, but Davante wanted out, so good riddance punk. Love Tae, but also not even close to crying he left. We good. Wish him luck in the Raiders offense with a average QB trying to throw him open.

Pugger
2 years ago

Bobby is 7 months into his rehab and way ahead of schedule. He had a clean tear which means much less than a year recovery. I know Bakh's timeline has everyone freaked out, but Dave had more than ACL, and it wasn't clean tear like Bobby's.

You also have Tyler Davis and Deguara if something weird happens and Bobby isn't good to go week 1 as is expected. I have no concerns at TE.

Not sure why some are acting like Lazard, Cobb, and Amari will account for zero WR production, and it's ALL dependent on the new guys. Keep in mind this team was 7-0 without Tae before Watkins, Watson, Doubs, and Toure came to town. It's LaFleur's offense that made Davante a superstar. I honestly am sick of hearing that this offense will be lesser without him. He is a loss, so is Z, but a massive hole that can not be filled now? Not even close. I haven't said this here yet, but Davante wanted out, so good riddance punk. Love Tae, but also not even close to crying he left. We good. Wish him luck in the Raiders offense with a average QB trying to throw him open.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 



Has Lazard signed yet?
PackersNation
2 years ago

Has Lazard signed yet?

Originally Posted by: Pugger 



Yes. Lazard signed a tender which is the equivalent of a one year contract. Signed for 2022 for 3.98 million.

Lazard can become a unrestricted free agent in 2023.
Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Has Lazard signed yet?

Originally Posted by: Pugger 



I would say no, but that's based off the Packers website listing him as restricted free agent.
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However, Spotrac says he did sign it. So, I really do not know, but I'm leaning towards Packers website not being up-to-date.
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But if you look at transactions... I really have no idea anymore lol
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Pugger
2 years ago

I would say no, but that's based off the Packers website listing him as restricted free agent.
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However, Spotrac says he did sign it. So, I really do not know, but I'm leaning towards Packers website not being up-to-date.
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But if you look at transactions... I really have no idea anymore lol
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



lol I suppose we should wait until it is on the Packers' website until we know for sure. It sure is confusing, isn't it?
Zero2Cool
2 years ago

lol I suppose we should wait until it is on the Packers' website until we know for sure. It sure is confusing, isn't it?

Originally Posted by: Pugger 



It sure is. My understanding is once Packer assign the tender, that amount was applied against their salary cap. But the player (e.g. Lazard) doesn't have to sign it right away. Also, I read somewhere that the amount can be lowered by a certain date if still unsigned.

As for this transaction, I couldn't find any NFL wire transaction that says Allen Lazard signed it. I believe last year he waited until July to sign a tender.
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beast
2 years ago
I'm just guessing Lazard isn't going to sign until he wants to be in the building, which will probably be training camp.

As players simply have more freedom not being signed and that offer most likely isn't going anywhere, and he might be able to get more money in the open market if they did pull the tender back.

Plus, currently he can play basketball or ride motorcycles, or do what he wants without the team having a contract on him...

And yes, some teams have had issues with players playing very competitive basketball, or problems with where or how they work out. Not that the Packers have had any issues with Lazard as far as I'm aware, but less rules for same amount of money can be nice.
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PackersNation
2 years ago
Really isn't that confusing lol.

The Packers signed Lazard(He signed it) to a 2nd round tender. He will play for the Packers for the 2022 season for 3.9 mill unless the Packers sign him to extension before the season.

He is though still a RFA and another team can offer him a contract but the Packers can match any offer or receive a 2nd round pick if it gets to that which it won't.

Got it? Kidding😋
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