porky88
16 years ago
Packers overpaid for Charles Woodson at the time he was signed. A few years later and it looks like it's been money well spent.

To get a big free agent you have to pay them. I think this is the best free agent class since Thompson has been named GM of the Packers. The Packers have a lot of money. In my opinion the reason you let guys like Marco Rivera, Mike Wahle, Javon Walker, Darren Sharper, and I guess even Brett Favre go is because you want to clear cap space. This has been done and now the Packers have not only the money resign their own guys, but also to sign a few big free agents too.

It's not that hard to resign Greg Jennings, Aaron Kampman, and Nick Collins and then sign Albert Haynesworth and Jordan Gross. It can be done and I believe should be done or some sort of version of that.
dfosterf
16 years ago

You're not being serious, are you?

"go.pack.go." wrote:



I really don't know what a cap is...never really thought about it.

I have a small idea of what it is, but not the hole package, lol.

"blueleopard" wrote:



Nonstopdrivel is going to answer your question at length, in our "Project" thread, after the conclusion of the regular season. . It is a hard, hard job. I recommend and request you consider the possibility of volunteering to answer another question which might be of interest to our fellow posters. See "volunteers needed." If you are unsure as to what to do, I will assist you in discovering what might be helpful, interesting and appropriate. Feel free to PM me w/any question(s). In the meantime, if you need a brief explanation of the cap, PM nonstop...I am sure he can give you an excellent explanation.
zombieslayer
16 years ago
As someone who used to do sales, I see Ted Thompson as someone who will bring in guys but won't close the deal. This has happened several times and I don't want to name examples or else it will bring back old arguments to the point of ad nauseum.

Money is not the issue. Brett Favre is gone. We have plenty of space, and we make enough in sales to be a positive cashflow corporation by far.

I completely agree with Porky. We have a good free agent class coming up. We have the money to sign are keepers like Gregorious and Collins. Is Kampy's contract coming up, Porky? If so, I was completely unaware of that. I thought he was secured for several more years.
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go.pack.go.
16 years ago

As someone who used to do sales, I see Ted Thompson as someone who will bring in guys but won't close the deal. This has happened several times and I don't want to name examples or else it will bring back old arguments to the point of ad nauseum.

Money is not the issue. Brett Favre is gone. We have plenty of space, and we make enough in sales to be a positive cashflow corporation by far.

I completely agree with Porky. We have a good free agent class coming up. We have the money to sign are keepers like Gregorious and Collins. Is Kampy's contract coming up, Porky? If so, I was completely unaware of that. I thought he was secured for several more years.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



I do believe that Kampman's contract is up after next year. I don't know this for a fact, but that's what I think.
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zombieslayer
16 years ago


I do believe that Kampman's contract is up after next year. I don't know this for a fact, but that's what I think.

"go.pack.go." wrote:



Thanks Go.
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go.pack.go.
16 years ago
Regarding Aaron Kampman's contract:

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_previousnews.aspx?sport=Nfl&id=1765 
(It's powered by msnbc.com so I guess It's believable)


3/14/2006: Signed a four-year, $21 million contract. The deal included an $8 million signing bonus and contains $12 million in total guarantees. 2008: $2.9 million, 2009: $3.9 million, 2010: Free Agent



That's as of 3/14/06 as you can see...
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dhazer
16 years ago
I seen a good point about this could be the last capped year and we better lock up the guys now. But the bad thing is don't you think the players and agents know this also? If you were to become a FA in 2010 would you sign a contract now when you know that when your contract is up that you could get insane money then?
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go.pack.go.
16 years ago

I seen a good point about this could be the last capped year and we better lock up the guys now. But the bad thing is don't you think the players and agents know this also? If you were to become a FA in 2010 would you sign a contract now when you know that when your contract is up that you could get insane money then?

"dhazer" wrote:



Well, they could always wait until 2010 if they wanted to be a dick about it.
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PackFanWithTwins
16 years ago
It is going to take cash to get a player like Haynesworth.

Just looking at contract like Tommie Harris and Shaun Rogers. It will more than likely take around 11 mil per year with 20+ guaranteed.

I would prefer a couple lesser FA at this point.
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go.pack.go.
16 years ago
Yes, a Chris Canty wouldn't hurt. I wouldn't mind having him on my team at all. Even a Bertrand Berry wouldn't be bad. There's two quality depth players right there.
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