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beast
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3 years ago

Clay is not coming back. The players are just messing with those who are gullible.
The best ILB in the past decade was AJ Hawk. He still leads the team in career tackles.

Originally Posted by: wpr

According to reports that players were not playing, they really would like Matthews back.

Also I haven't looked at the numbers in a while, but I believe the site that was tracking tackles is incorrect, as they double counted some tackles.

Basically there are three tackles stats, solo tackles, assisted tackles and combined.

And the website that was tracking tackles accidentally combined combined and one of the others.... so either solo or assisted tackles were incorrectly counted twice to put Hawk in the career tackle lead.

At least according to NFL.com, Hawk had less tackles than what the career tackle item that said Hawk got in his career.

Also, Hawk got a ton of tackles after giving up five yards... so Hawk made a lot of negative plays from becoming even worse, but he wasn't a play maker.

wpr
Preferred Member

3 years ago

#12

Also I haven't looked at the numbers in a while, but I believe the site that was tracking tackles is incorrect, as they double counted some tackles.

Originally Posted by: beast

I relaize there is a dispute over his numbers. I am using the stats from the Packers' own website. They have it as 1118. I am sure they have heard the same comments. If they don't know then they have an incompetent staff. Using the wrong numbers would also be cheating John Anderson.

Basically there are three tackles stats, solo tackles, assisted tackles and combined.

Yes, I know. Thank you.

Also, Hawk got a ton of tackles after giving up five yards... so Hawk made a lot of negative plays from becoming even worse, but he wasn't a play maker.

I am not making any claims as to the quality of the tackle, only that the Packers organization has deemed him to be their leader in total tackles. Any disputes should be taken up with them.
Also, that old line of "Hawk got a ton of tackles after giving up five yards" just doesn't sit well with me. Perhaps he did. Nevertheless he still got the tackle. If he didn't get it where would the ball carrier ended up? Instead of a 5 yard gain perhaps it would have been 10, 15 or 30 yards down field. Could he have gotten some of runners after a 2 yard game? Probably. Did he run sideline to sideline to make the play. Sometimes.
It was Green Bay's misfortune to have the #5 pick in 2006. Yes it would have been nice to take Vernon Davis. They didn't. They wanted a LBer instead. They thought they had the TE situation covered with Bubba Franks and Donald Lee.

beast
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3 years ago

#13

Originally Posted by: wpr

John Anderson was the name I was trying to remember... I think the NFL.com supported his numbers but Hawks numbers seemed to double count own of his types of tackles.

I agree the Packers should be informed and looked into it, but I don't exactly have contact with them.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

3 years ago

#14

Hawk has about 700 solo tackles. And over 50 tackles for a loss. He's legit. Quit being dorks.

KRK
Veteran Member

3 years ago

#15

Clay sucked the last couple of years he was here. RARELY set an edge and gave up leverage constantly in order to get a sack and act like an idiot thereafter.

Take a pass please.

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK

Cheesey
Preferred Member

3 years ago

#16

“Feet of Clay” won’t be back.
He sucked the last few years he was here. And didn’t do much after that.
He wouldn’t be worth wasting a roster spot on.
I think it’s just players making up stuff for fun, to see which “media” brains would try to make a story out of it.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

3 years ago

#17

Aaron Rodgers confirmed what I have said. (just hurt myself patting my back, okay back now).

Rodgers said he was with the Cobbs and Bakhtiari last week and they got to talking and brought up Clay. They did the FaceTime thing with him and decided to have some fun on Social Media.

Apparently Clay is a farmer now and probably couldn't come back if he wanted.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

3 years ago

#18

Clay is a FARMER?!?!
I can see him.....wetting his hair, throwing his head back, and telling the cows how he’s gonna tackle and brand them.
(And the cows laughing at him)😉

Mucky Tundra
Honored Member

3 years ago

#19

I was just talking about this to a friend at lunch. When I saw the Randall Cobb post, I said this is gonna be funny. And sure enough, a little while later Aaron Rodgers chimed in. The sad thing is Rodgers has said he likes messing with the media. Other players have joined in on it. Rodgers has said mocked how media sees someone "Like" something on Tweeter and suddenly articles spring up left and right. This is the same thing.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Apparently Mike Tomlin likes messing with the media too

“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”

"I’ve got it." -Aaron Rodgers

beast
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3 years ago

#20

Apparently Mike Tomlin likes messing with the media too

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra

Tomlin could have another reason and just enjoy saying that to the media being a smart ass lol.

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