all_about_da_packers
16 years ago


Can Flynn honestly be worse than Frost?

"pack93z" wrote:



Glad to see you are not defending Frost this week.. it was time to cut our losses.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



You know, they say he had excellent practices.

It was still a matter of him simply transferring it to the game. :physassult:
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Cheesey
16 years ago
Never should have dumped Jon Ryan.
He was WAAAAAY better then Frost.
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macbob
16 years ago

Never should have dumped Jon Ryan.
He was WAAAAAY better then Frost.

"Cheesey" wrote:



I thought so at the time. Redskins drafted a punter this year--you don't do that if you're happy with your current punter. Frost should have read the writing on the wall when all the Redskins would offer him this year was a veterans minimum contract.

When Frost was cut by the Redskins, here's what they had to say on a 30 Aug 08 blog on NFL.Fanhouse.com. The part that gets me is the second to the last paragraph--the supposed reason we were gettting Frost was because of his consistency and directional kicking:

"Durant Brooks Beats Out Derrick Frost for Redskins Punting Job
Posted Aug 30th 2008 2:45PM by Sportz Assassin (author feed)

In our Redskins training camp battle, we figured that the toughest fight was at punter. I know it's not very exciting -- but it is true.

The competition came down to the "nitty gritty", which neither punter as the clear favorite. Both performed well in the preseason ... which is what a coach wants to see.

Washington did make their decision, as they are keeping rookie Durant Brooks and cutting Derrick Frost.

The key is consistency. Frost hurt the Redskins at various times last year with gawd-awful kicks ... including a key punt late in the Redskins playoff loss to the Seahawks. Brooks is outstanding at directional kicking and may have put him over the hump.

That, or the fact that Redskins fans would be a little bent that the team would waste a sixth-round pick on a punter only to release him."
macbob
16 years ago
Oh, this is just too much. According to the GB Press Gazette, we're bringing in Durant Brooks, the rookie punter who beat Frost out at Washington only to be cut in mid-October! Don't know if Frost could recover from being beaten out on different teams by the same guy twice in one year!

"Three punters, according to their agents, are coming in for workouts today: rookie Durant Brooks, a sixth-round draft pick by Washington who beat out Frost for the Redskins punting job in training camp but was cut in mid-October for poor performance; Paul Ernster, who had 12 punts as a temporary replacement this season for Pittsburghs Mitch Berger; and Jeremy Kapinos, who spent part of last season on the New York Jets practice squad and was cut by the Jets in training camp this year."
go.pack.go.
16 years ago
No DeBauche?
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Since69
16 years ago

Yea! We cut Frost! Hurray!!!

"Everyone So Far in this Thread" wrote:



Stupid, stupid, stupid.

The guy sucked, and he needed to go, I'll agree. But why in the hell would they cut him without so much as a tryout to determine his replacement? No, wait - I know: there's zero chance that the three stiffs they're bringing in for auditions could possibly be worse, right? What - we didn't want to offend Frost by asking him to compete for his job?

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Pack93z
16 years ago


Can Flynn honestly be worse than Frost?

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



Glad to see you are not defending Frost this week.. it was time to cut our losses.

"pack93z" wrote:



You know, they say he had excellent practices.

It was still a matter of him simply transferring it to the game. :physassult:

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



Honestly, I am starting to lose faith in "we had a great week of practice"; because apparently some of the remedial items aren't making it to game day. Something just isn't right there..

Light these damn players up already..

I wonder if there isn't some fallout yet from the offseason.. I know MM is very tight on letting coaches give interviews and what the players can talk about.. but one has to wonder if there aren't some issues under the surface here..
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Since69
16 years ago
New England has a punter on their practice squad - Tom Malone. I figure the kid must have some talent if the Pats are keeping him handy.

Here's his Wikipedia bio... 

Don't know why the link's not working, but here's the College highlights:

Malone entered the 2002 season as USC's first true freshman starting punter in ten years, playing all 13 games and averaging 42.1 yards on his 62 punts. He made the All-Freshman Team in several publications. In the 2003 season, the sophomore again appeared in all 13 games, averaging 49.0 yards (breaking the previous USC record) on his 42 punts. Malone earned first-team All-American honors from ESPN.com, SI.com and Collegefootballnews.com, becoming USC's first-ever All-American punter. Oddly enough, Malone was a lead contender for the national punting title, but because of USC's very efficient offense that year he was five punts shy of having the NCAA-required minimum 3.6 punts per game to be listed --his 49.0 average was 1.0 yards above the national leader.

Going into his junior season, Malone had become a fan favorite due to the novelty of having an All-American punter at a school that dominated offensively. Some fans began a humorous and well-meaning "Malone4Heisman" campaign that received attention from both his teammates (including that year's actual Heisman Trophy winner Matt Leinart, who mentioned the campaign in his own Heisman campaign blog) and major sports media outlets. It was this campaign that dubbed Malone "the Bomb".

During the 2004 season, Malone again appeared in all 13 games, he averaging 43.8 yards on 49 punts. He ranked ninth nationally in punting (43.8, first in Pac-10) and was a semifinalist for the 2004 Ray Guy Award. His performance at the 2005 FedEx Orange Bowl earned him a place on CBS Sportsline.com's All-Bowl Team. After his very successful junior season, there was question as to whether Malone would stay on for his senior season or leave early to enter the NFL. At a press conference with fellow touted juniors Matt Leinart and Lofa Tatupu, Malone announced he would stay on for the 2005 season.

In the summer before his senior season, Malone injured his right hip during workouts which limited his ability to practice during the season. During his final season, the USC offense performed better than it had in his previous seasons: averaged 50 points a game and only allowing Malone 30 punts in 12 games, lower than any previous season. USC did not punt during his final home game, a 66-19 offensive explosion against rival-UCLA. Despite the step backwards, Malone took things well saying, "From a team standpoint, this could not have gone better. It's the most fun you could ever imagine. From a personal standpoint, it's been a little frustrating." He graduated from USC in 2006 with a degree in political science.



He's never taken a snap as a pro, but it sounds like there might be some serious (but untapped) talent lurking there...
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Packnic
16 years ago
nice leg work Since69.... i like where your head is at.

sign him up... if for no other reason than to piss off Belicheat.
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Cheesey
16 years ago

Yea! We cut Frost! Hurray!!!

"Since69" wrote:



Stupid, stupid, stupid.

The guy sucked, and he needed to go, I'll agree. But why in the hell would they cut him without so much as a tryout to determine his replacement? No, wait - I know: there's zero chance that the three stiffs they're bringing in for auditions could possibly be worse, right? What - we didn't want to offend Frost by asking him to compete for his job?

"Gee... this house is drafty. Let's burn it to the ground. What? No, don't worry - we'll find another one somewhere..."

"Everyone So Far in this Thread" wrote:


Then when would it be a good time to cut him? The guy SUCKED from day one. No matter WHO they put back there, he can't be any worse then Frost. He was THAT bad.
There HAS to be someone we can sign this week thats better then that.
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