Smokey
6 years ago

John Dorsey took a god damn promotion in 2013 to be General Manager of the Chiefs!! How you are saying Murphy fucked that up is just beyond me and honestly plain ignorant.

Yesterday, I took over an hour of my evening to reply to you to help inform you on some of your worries that weren't actually valid. And you just keep coming with more blatant lies and ignorant bullshit.

The messed up thing, you were one of them who constantly complained about John's blind spite of Ted Thompson and everything he did. Yet, you act like a straight up hypocrite doing the same thing to Mark Murphy. Pathetic.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



As I'm seeing it, the Anger/Rage levels among some have yet to settle into the safe level of the scale. I'm not pleased when the Packers don't do well, but lashing out at this one or that one just prolongs the negativity. I'd like to read more positive post about healthy returning players or players that will be better entering their 2nd season or how Lambeau Field has and is a profit generator for the Packers.
Let's end the Pity Party and get POSITIVE moving forward. [twocents]
UserPostedImage
gbguy20
6 years ago

Dorsey, ok
That's my whole damn point.
He had his chance to do it right.
He fucked it up.
I'm done!





Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Totally ok with you saying that. This is your opinion and that is valid. The rest of the bullshit that you have been spewing the last few days is just that, bullshit. You blamed him for shit he didn't do, contradicted your own arguments and ignored all the facts put in front of you. Maybe next time just post the above and be done. Assuming you are referring to Murphy here.
BAD EMAIL because the address couldn ot be found, or is unable to receive mail.
buckeyepackfan
6 years ago

John Dorsey took a god damn promotion in 2013 to be General Manager of the Chiefs!! How you are saying Murphy fucked that up is just beyond me and honestly plain ignorant.

Yesterday, I took over an hour of my evening to reply to you to help inform you on some of your worries that weren't actually valid. And you just keep coming with more blatant lies and ignorant bullshit.

The messed up thing, you were one of them who constantly complained about John's blind spite of Ted Thompson and everything he did. Yet, you act like a straight up hypocrite doing the same thing to Mark Murphy. Pathetic.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Say this one more time so as not to confuse anyone.

My one point!

Aftet the 2017 season Murphy had his chance to make changes, blow it up if you will, and he fucked up.
He half-assed it.
If you or anyone else can't see it .
I DON'T CARE!
I should have never tried to explain because I was unsure of the timeline of events.

So I'll just say it started when he removed Ted then didnt finish the job!

I'm sorry you took all thst time to try and prove me wrong.
Just know, again I don't care if you think I'm wrong, The Packers organization is far less stable then it was 1 year ago!

The big problem, it's going to take several years to fix.
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
Zero2Cool
6 years ago

Say this one more time so as not to confuse anyone.

My one point!

Aftet the 2017 season Murphy had his chance to make changes, blow it up if you will, and he fucked up.
He half-assed it.
If you or anyone else can't see it .
I DON'T CARE!
I should have never tried to explain because I was unsure of the timeline of events.

So I'll just say it started when he removed Ted then didnt finish the job!

I'm sorry you took all thst time to try and prove me wrong.
Just know, again I don't care if you think I'm wrong, The Packers organization is far less stable then it was 1 year ago!

The big problem, it's going to take several years to fix.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



I can see your point that you might as well get rid of the head coach and general manager at the same time. It's kind of funny that we laughed at the Vikings for a similar structure as we have now, only to find out a good portion of the NFL operates in a similar fashion. Maybe it was the Vikings putting some cute name on the structure that made it so dorky to us, lol.

I am OK with the structure, except Russ Ball. Something about him I just don't like and I think he should be reporting to the General Manager. I don't know how many other finance people report to the GM though so I could be wanting something that's not even a decent idea.

UserPostedImage
steveishere
6 years ago
Gute has been a personnel guy his whole career, a scout. Has anyone complaining about the current structure thought that just maybe Gute is perfectly comfortable collaborating with someone on the hiring of the Head Coach? Maybe Gute is smart enough to know what his own strengths and weaknesses are and isn't too much of an ego maniac to need control over that aspect when it's possibly not in the best interest of the team? Murphy is a football guy through and through and from everything I've read about him is well respected around the league. I haven't seen any reason not to trust him as far as hiring executive staff and good football people.
steveishere
6 years ago

Say this one more time so as not to confuse anyone.

My one point!

Aftet the 2017 season Murphy had his chance to make changes, blow it up if you will, and he fucked up.
He half-assed it.
If you or anyone else can't see it .
I DON'T CARE!
I should have never tried to explain because I was unsure of the timeline of events.

So I'll just say it started when he removed Ted then didnt finish the job!

I'm sorry you took all thst time to try and prove me wrong.
Just know, again I don't care if you think I'm wrong, The Packers organization is far less stable then it was 1 year ago!

The big problem, it's going to take several years to fix.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



I'll have to disagree, McCarthy is a respected coach around the league and had a down year. Even though they replaced the GM I don't have a problem with giving McCarthy an extra year to try and turn things around. I doubt many GMs or whoever around the league would have done any differently. Just because Ted Thompson lost his edge and needed to be replaced doesn't mean you need to "blow everything up" outright. In hindsight MM couldn't turn it around and was ultimately let go but again that's hindsight.

If I have to blame one person for how everything went down it'd be Ted Thompson as at this point he should have been better prepared and had some kind of succession plan in place but instead he held on until he had to be forced out and from reports his overall communication even with his own staff was pretty poor the last couple years.
yooperfan
6 years ago
I didn't have much faith in Ted Thompson after I saw him attempt to speak a complete sentence as the new GM of the Packers.
It was very obvious that he was a poor communicator and poor communicators aren't generally good leaders.

When I took my youngest son to the"return to title town" celebration at Lambeau Field in 2011and Thompson referred to the Lombardi Trophy as the "Lambeau Trophy" I threw up in my mouth.
Thompson should have been fired right then and there.
He was never qualified to be anything more than a scout.
He's the reason the Green Bay Packers are where they are now.
KRK
  • KRK
  • Veteran Member
6 years ago
Murphy also has a boss...we need to remember that. I don't who on the Executive Committee holds sway, but someone (or several people) does. If we set the way-back machine to 2017 EOS, and had Murphy walked in and said, "The best player in the league got hurt and we sucked, so now I want to fire not only the General Manager, but the Head Coach," a board meeting likely would have been held, and he would have been fired.

20/20 hindsight is always perfect.
In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK
beast
6 years ago

I didn't have much faith in Ted Thompson after I saw him attempt to speak a complete sentence as the new GM of the Packers.
It was very obvious that he was a poor communicator and poor communicators aren't generally good leaders.

When I took my youngest son to the"return to title town" celebration at Lambeau Field in 2011and Thompson referred to the Lombardi Trophy as the "Lambeau Trophy" I threw up in my mouth.
Thompson should have been fired right then and there.
He was never qualified to be anything more than a scout.
He's the reason the Green Bay Packers are where they are now.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 


So he's not qualified because he doesn't speak as well as you like?

What a complete load of uppity bullshit!

Maybe Murphy failed because he didn't fire everybody and hire all English majors to replace them that look good in suits so we can have a dog and pony show instead of focusing of football people.

There are a lot of legitimate things to hammer these guys and dislike them for, but this thread is full of bullshit excuses why not to like someone...

Can we please PLEASE go back to blaming people for things that...
1) They actually have done
2) They're not damned either way in a no win situation
3) Actually involved football

Cus right now, so sum up this thread so far, someone is bitching that single person should be put in charge of all meal ordering, Murphy basically does just that by putting Gute in charge of everything except dessert, then Murphy demonized as a horrible person when Gute ordered a salad as an appetizer and someone else saying Thompson is unqualified to eat because he used the wrong fork to eat said salad.


UserPostedImage
yooperfan
6 years ago
Wow, that's all I can say about your nonsensical post.
I certainly would have expected more from you.
I rarely bash other peoples opinions but, wow, where the hell did that come from.
Are you out ice fishing per chance?
Fan Shout
dfosterf (3-Jul) : Make sure to send my props to him! A plus move!
Zero2Cool (3-Jul) : My cousin, yes.
dfosterf (3-Jul) : That was your brother the GB press gazette referenced with the red cross draft props thing, yes?
Zero2Cool (2-Jul) : Packers gonna unveil new throwback helmet in few weeks.
Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : I know it's Kleiman but this stuff writes itself
Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : "Make sure she signs the NDA before asking for a Happy Ending!"
Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : @NFL_DovKleiman Powerful: Deshaun Watson is taking Shedeur Sanders 'under his wing' as a mentor to the Browns QBs
Zero2Cool (30-Jun) : Dolphins get (back) Minkah Fitzpatrick in trade
Zero2Cool (30-Jun) : Steelers land Jalen Ramsey via Trade
dfosterf (26-Jun) : I think it would be great to have someone like Tom Grossi or Andy Herman on the Board of Directors so he/they could inform us
dfosterf (26-Jun) : Fair enough, WPR. Thing is, I have been a long time advocate to at least have some inkling of the dynamics within the board.
wpr (26-Jun) : 1st world owners/stockholders problems dfosterf.
Martha Careful (25-Jun) : I would have otherwise admirably served
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Also, no more provision for a write-in candidate, so Martha is off the table at least for this year
dfosterf (25-Jun) : You do have to interpret the boring fine print, but all stockholders all see he is on the ballot
dfosterf (25-Jun) : It also says he is subject to another ballot in 2028. I recall nothing of this nature with Murphy
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy is on my ballot subject to me penciling him in as a no.
dfosterf (25-Jun) : I thought it used to be we voted for the whatever they called the 45, and then they voted for the seven, and then they voted for Mark Murphy
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Because I was too lazy to change my address, I haven't voted fot years until this year
dfosterf (25-Jun) : of the folks that run this team. I do not recall Mark Murphy being subject to our vote.
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy yay or nay is on the pre-approved ballot that we always approve because we are uninformed and lazy, along with all the rest
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Weird question. Very esoteric. For stockholders. Also lengthy. Sorry. Offseason.
Zero2Cool (25-Jun) : Maybe wicked wind chill made it worse?
Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : And then he signs with Cleveland in the offseason
Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : @SharpFootball WR Diontae Johnson just admitted he refused to enter a game in 41° weather last year in Baltimore because he felt “ice cold”
Zero2Cool (24-Jun) : Yawn. Rodgers says he is "pretty sure" this be final season.
Zero2Cool (23-Jun) : PFT claims Packers are having extension talks with Zach Tom, Quay Walker.
Mucky Tundra (20-Jun) : GB-Minnesota 2004 Wild Card game popped up on my YouTube page....UGH
beast (20-Jun) : Hmm 🤔 re-signing Walker before Tom? Sounds highly questionable to me.
Mucky Tundra (19-Jun) : One person on Twitter=cannon law
Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Well, to ONE person on Tweeter
Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : According to Tweeter
Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Packers are working on extension for LT Walker they hope to have done before camp
dfosterf (18-Jun) : E4B landed at Andrews last night
dfosterf (18-Jun) : 101 in a 60
dfosterf (18-Jun) : FAFO
Zero2Cool (18-Jun) : one year $4m with incentives to make it up to $6m
dfosterf (18-Jun) : Or Lions
dfosterf (18-Jun) : Beats the hell out of a Vikings signing
Zero2Cool (18-Jun) : Baltimore Ravens now have signed former Packers CB Jaire Alexander.
dfosterf (14-Jun) : TWO magnificent strikes for touchdowns. Lose the pennstate semigeezer non nfl backup
dfosterf (14-Jun) : There was minicamp Thursday. My man Taylor Engersma threw
dfosterf (11-Jun) : There will be a mini camp practice Thursday.
Zero2Cool (11-Jun) : He's been sporting a ring for a while now. It's probably Madonna.
Martha Careful (10-Jun) : We only do the tea before whoopee, it relaxes me.
wpr (10-Jun) : That's awesome Martha.
Mucky Tundra (10-Jun) : How's the ayahuasca tea he makes, Martha?
Martha Careful (10-Jun) : Turns out he like older women
Martha Careful (10-Jun) : I wasn't supposed to say anything, but yes the word is out and we are happy 😂😂😂
Mucky Tundra (10-Jun) : I might be late on this but Aaron Rodgers is now married
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2025 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
COMMANDERS
Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
Browns
Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
Cardinals
Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
PANTHERS
Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
EAGLES
Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
Giants
Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
Bears
Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
RAVENS
Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
Vikings
Recent Topics
13h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

2-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

2-Jul / Fantasy Sports Talk / dfosterf

1-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

29-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

25-Jun / Around The NFL / Martha Careful

23-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

20-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

20-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

20-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

18-Jun / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

16-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

15-Jun / Random Babble / Martha Careful

14-Jun / Around The NFL / beast

14-Jun / Community Welcome! / dfosterf

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.