rabidgopher04
6 years ago
Man, I thought football was all just athletic entertainment to be enjoyed on the weekends.
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DoddPower
6 years ago
I'm not ready to blame Murphy for many things. But I absolutely blame him for fumbling the McCarthy situation. McCarthy should have been fired at least a few seasons ago, but at the very least, he should have been fired this past off season, NOT during the season. I realize there is some advantage to having a head start, but a clean sweep should have been made this off season.

I acknowledge hindsight is 20/20. There might be something to be said about Murphy realizing his mistake sooner rather than later and no longer delaying the inevitable further. But I do think that not making a clean transition this off season essentially wasted a season for the Packers. It doesn't come across as clean and organized management, which was echoed by many former players and coaches after the news broke.

Obviously judgement on Murphy will come in the following years. But I can't deny, listening to him speak does not inspire any confidence in me. And it's different than Ted Thompson's speaking style. I seemed to always have confidence Thompson had a clear plan and knew what he was doing, at least for most of his Packers tenure. I don't yet feel that with Murphy, but it can still happen. For now, I'm very skeptical.
Zero2Cool
6 years ago
This isn't WWE. The people don't need to be good speakers to be good at their job. Then again, I enjoy Bill Billichicks conferences. What do I know.
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buckeyepackfan
6 years ago

lol but you are blaming Murphy for decisions he didn't make. You tried blaming him for three people accepting promotions elsewhere for crying out loud.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


I couldn't remember if Snyder came back or not.
Wolf and Highsmith left when they weren't considered or promoted.
That was all on Murphy.
When does Murphy's free ride end?
Doesn't matter to me.
I'll watch The Packers while they suck.
Hell I wont even complain.
Probably wont be called a homer in the near future, guess I have that.
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beast
6 years ago

I couldn't remember if Snyder came back or not.
Wolf and Highsmith left when they weren't considered or promoted.
That was all on Murphy.
When does Murphy's free ride end?

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 


You might have a point that fans need to be more critical of Murphy, and I'm certainly not saying fully truth him... but it certainly doesn't help your cause when you blindly blame him for stuff that seems fairly clearly not his fault... and being hypocritical about things.

You have said just put one guy in charge and get out... well he put Gute in charge, and that pissed off Wolf and Wolf transfered with the permission of Gute (who I think could of blocked it, but decided not to), yet your blaming Murphy for doing what you said you wanted him to do.

Wolf was considered for the GM job, and there is no way hell Murphy could give both of them the GM job and follow your one guy in charge philosophy.

I'm not defending Murphy, but C'MON MAN, you have to at the very least be consistent in your argument against him... and not blaming him for both doing and not doing the same exact something....

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DoddPower
6 years ago

This isn't WWE. The people don't need to be good speakers to be good at their job. Then again, I enjoy Bill Billichicks conferences. What do I know.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Eh, I disagree with that. Although I'm fine with him being a poor communicator as long as the results are fantastic. But ultimately, the Packers are paying him millions of dollars every year to essentially be one of the main faces of the franchise. It's not unreasonable to expect some level of good communication skills and organized public thought processes. Packers shareholders should certainly expect it. That would be required of most "normal" people in 99% of leadership positions of that nature unless we were just freakishly talented in some other way (s). I don't think Murphy is extremely more talented than his peers around the league.

Like I said, ultimately, the results are all that matters. But a combination of poor communication skills and poor-to-average results should make for a very short leash, imo.
Zero2Cool
6 years ago

I couldn't remember if Snyder came back or not.
Wolf and Highsmith left when they weren't considered or promoted.
That was all on Murphy.
When does Murphy's free ride end?
Doesn't matter to me.
I'll watch The Packers while they suck.
Hell I wont even complain.
Probably wont be called a homer in the near future, guess I have that.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Snyder? Who's Snyder?

Wolf and Highsmith took promotions elsewhere because they didn't get the promotion they wanted with the Packers.

Murphy doesn't get a fee ride. He does get a chance to hire a coach that works with the GM he hired.

That's called being reasonable. Try it sometime.
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buckeyepackfan
6 years ago

Snyder? Who's Snyder?

Wolf and Highsmith took promotions elsewhere because they didn't get the promotion they wanted with the Packers.

Murphy doesn't get a fee ride. He does get a chance to hire a coach that works with the GM he hired.

That's called being reasonable. Try it sometime.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Dorsey, ok
That's my whole damn point.
He had his chance to do it right.
He fucked it up.
I'm done!

Might take another year or 2 or 3, sooner or later the board is going to wake up and realize Murphy should have stayed on the business side of the picture.






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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

Dorsey, ok
That's my whole damn point.
He had his chance to do it right.
He fucked it up.
I'm done!

Might take another year or 2 or 3, sooner or later the board is going to wake up and realize Murphy should have stayed on the business side of the picture.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 


John Dorsey took a god damn promotion in 2013 to be General Manager of the Chiefs!! How you are saying Murphy fucked that up is just beyond me and honestly plain ignorant.

Yesterday, I took over an hour of my evening to reply to you to help inform you on some of your worries that weren't actually valid. And you just keep coming with more blatant lies and ignorant bullshit.

The messed up thing, you were one of them who constantly complained about John's blind spite of Ted Thompson and everything he did. Yet, you act like a straight up hypocrite doing the same thing to Mark Murphy. Pathetic.
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Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago
Speaking of which, where is John? I only banned him temporarily.
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