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In the years after the Green Bay Packers won Super Bowl XLV, they were a team content with what they had.

Under general manager Ted Thompson, the yearly roster turnover consisted mostly of draft picks and rookie free agents moving someone more experienced off the 53-man roster.

Counting only players who were new to the team, turnover consisted of 10 players in 2011, 13 in 2012, 12 in 2013, 11 in 2014, 10 in 2015 and 14 in 2016.

Gutekunst has been true to his word, signing unrestricted free agents, making trades, attempting to steal other teams’ players with offer sheets and throwing his hat in the ring in the Khalil Mack sweepstakes.

Assuming there will be some tinkering with the roster this week, Gutekunst as of Sunday had added 19 players to the roster who were somewhere else last year. That’s a 35.8 percent turnover, which is a considerable jump from a nine-year average of 26.4 percent from 2011-17.

There will be a crowd that will consider him a coward for not going further down the path in the Mack negotiations, but as some who know him well said Sunday, he wasn’t going to meet the Oakland Raiders’ price.

It would not be out of the realm of possibility if he allowed his former colleague, Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie, to tell the Bears he was offering two first-round draft picks just to drive the trade price up for his division rival. One former colleague of Gutekunst’s said there's no way the first-year general manager would have put two firsts on the table for Mack in a serious effort to acquire him.

Even if Gutekunst could have met McKenzie’s price, the financial commitment that came with it would have handcuffed the team for years to come. The Packers would have had the highest-paid player on offense and the highest-paid player on defense and the two of them would have accounted for at least a quarter of the team’s salary-cap space this year and probably more in the coming years.



2 1st is too expensive. Since their picks are lower than Chicago's most likely will be I doubt GB would have gotten a pick in return.
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DarkaneRules
6 years ago
That contract for a DE in this league is just whack as hell. Can't be giving them QB money unless you have a QB on a rookie deal. Enter Chicago.
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buckeyepackfan
6 years ago
Someone want to guess how many SB rings the team with the highest paid defensive player on their roster have?




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Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago
For that matter, I don't think any team has ever won a Super Bowl after making a quarterback the highest-paid player in league history.
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DarkaneRules
6 years ago
Were any of them as good as Aaron Rodgers?
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

For that matter, I don't think any team has ever won a Super Bowl after making a quarterback the highest-paid player in league history.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



I thought Peyton Manning was highest paid for one of his Super Bowl wins? I wouldn't even know where to check that. I do know that it's been since (I believe) Kurt Warner that the NFL MVP won the Super Bowl.


Suppose that needs clarification too. Total Cash? Base Salary? Salary Cap Hit?

Wow, 2018 Jimmy G (ah rah pa lo) is counting $37 million against the cap for 49ers
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Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago

I thought Peyton Manning was highest paid for one of his Super Bowl wins?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



It's tricky. At the time he won his first Super Bowl, Manning was on a contract that included the highest signing bonus in league history; but I don't know if the total contact was the most lucrative the league had ever seen.

Jim Irsay did subsequently sign Manning to the richest contract in NFL history, but it didn't pan out. Manning spent the next season on injured reserve for his neck and was subsequently waived to make way for Andrew Luck. So no Super Bowl there.

Before opening negotiations with the Broncos, Manning asked his agent how much Tom Brady was making, and when he was told $18 million that year, he said, "I don't want to make a penny more than that." (His agent was disappointed, because he'd been hoping to shoot for a $25 million-per-year contract.) Manning was furious when he found out that the Broncos' opening bid was $19.2 million -- and refused to sign the offer sheet. Manning's wife told the agent to leave things to her, and she persuaded Manning to take the deal.

Manning ended up winning a ring with Denver, but I don't think that deal was the richest in league history either. His final career payout, incidentally, was a $2 million bonus for winning the Lombardi Trophy.

Manning retired as by far the best-compensated player in league history, having accumulated $247 million in career earnings, $61 million more (at that point) than the second highest paid player, the great Eli Manning himself. And that's not counting any of his innumerable other streams of revenue.

I could have sworn reading years ago that Brett Favre had made almost a quarter billion dollars in his career, but maybe that total included his endorsement deals and so on.
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