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In the years after the Green Bay Packers won Super Bowl XLV, they were a team content with what they had.

Under general manager Ted Thompson, the yearly roster turnover consisted mostly of draft picks and rookie free agents moving someone more experienced off the 53-man roster.

Counting only players who were new to the team, turnover consisted of 10 players in 2011, 13 in 2012, 12 in 2013, 11 in 2014, 10 in 2015 and 14 in 2016.

Gutekunst has been true to his word, signing unrestricted free agents, making trades, attempting to steal other teams’ players with offer sheets and throwing his hat in the ring in the Khalil Mack sweepstakes.

Assuming there will be some tinkering with the roster this week, Gutekunst as of Sunday had added 19 players to the roster who were somewhere else last year. That’s a 35.8 percent turnover, which is a considerable jump from a nine-year average of 26.4 percent from 2011-17.

There will be a crowd that will consider him a coward for not going further down the path in the Mack negotiations, but as some who know him well said Sunday, he wasn’t going to meet the Oakland Raiders’ price.

It would not be out of the realm of possibility if he allowed his former colleague, Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie, to tell the Bears he was offering two first-round draft picks just to drive the trade price up for his division rival. One former colleague of Gutekunst’s said there's no way the first-year general manager would have put two firsts on the table for Mack in a serious effort to acquire him.

Even if Gutekunst could have met McKenzie’s price, the financial commitment that came with it would have handcuffed the team for years to come. The Packers would have had the highest-paid player on offense and the highest-paid player on defense and the two of them would have accounted for at least a quarter of the team’s salary-cap space this year and probably more in the coming years.



2 1st is too expensive. Since their picks are lower than Chicago's most likely will be I doubt GB would have gotten a pick in return.
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DarkaneRules
6 years ago
That contract for a DE in this league is just whack as hell. Can't be giving them QB money unless you have a QB on a rookie deal. Enter Chicago.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
buckeyepackfan
6 years ago
Someone want to guess how many SB rings the team with the highest paid defensive player on their roster have?




I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago
For that matter, I don't think any team has ever won a Super Bowl after making a quarterback the highest-paid player in league history.
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DarkaneRules
6 years ago
Were any of them as good as Aaron Rodgers?
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

For that matter, I don't think any team has ever won a Super Bowl after making a quarterback the highest-paid player in league history.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



I thought Peyton Manning was highest paid for one of his Super Bowl wins? I wouldn't even know where to check that. I do know that it's been since (I believe) Kurt Warner that the NFL MVP won the Super Bowl.


Suppose that needs clarification too. Total Cash? Base Salary? Salary Cap Hit?

Wow, 2018 Jimmy G (ah rah pa lo) is counting $37 million against the cap for 49ers
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Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago

I thought Peyton Manning was highest paid for one of his Super Bowl wins?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



It's tricky. At the time he won his first Super Bowl, Manning was on a contract that included the highest signing bonus in league history; but I don't know if the total contact was the most lucrative the league had ever seen.

Jim Irsay did subsequently sign Manning to the richest contract in NFL history, but it didn't pan out. Manning spent the next season on injured reserve for his neck and was subsequently waived to make way for Andrew Luck. So no Super Bowl there.

Before opening negotiations with the Broncos, Manning asked his agent how much Tom Brady was making, and when he was told $18 million that year, he said, "I don't want to make a penny more than that." (His agent was disappointed, because he'd been hoping to shoot for a $25 million-per-year contract.) Manning was furious when he found out that the Broncos' opening bid was $19.2 million -- and refused to sign the offer sheet. Manning's wife told the agent to leave things to her, and she persuaded Manning to take the deal.

Manning ended up winning a ring with Denver, but I don't think that deal was the richest in league history either. His final career payout, incidentally, was a $2 million bonus for winning the Lombardi Trophy.

Manning retired as by far the best-compensated player in league history, having accumulated $247 million in career earnings, $61 million more (at that point) than the second highest paid player, the great Eli Manning himself. And that's not counting any of his innumerable other streams of revenue.

I could have sworn reading years ago that Brett Favre had made almost a quarter billion dollars in his career, but maybe that total included his endorsement deals and so on.
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packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I see what you did there Mucky
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : dammit. 3:25pm
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Yeah baby!
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (23-Dec) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (23-Dec) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (23-Dec) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I literally just said it.
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