beast
7 years ago
DAMN, we have more positive Saints Taysom Hill threads than positive Packers threads after a Packers win and on a Packers site in the sub forum of Green Bay Packers Talk...

Should we rename this sub forum Taysom Hill Talk?
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Zero2Cool
7 years ago

DAMN, we have more positive Saints Taysom Hill threads than positive Packers threads after a Packers win and on a Packers site in the sub forum of Green Bay Packers Talk...

Should we rename Taysom Hill Talk?

Originally Posted by: beast 



Taysom Hill is the next best thing!!! Who cares about the Packers on a Packers website? It's better to covet thy neighbors wife than appreciate your own. We have things to be MILDLY excited about. The defense got 7 sacks today and special teams put points on the board. Guess who doesn't play on defense or special teams? Aaron Rodgers. Granted Buccaneers are only a 4 win team so it's not like we can buy Super Bowl tickets. It's fucking progress though!

If this team doesn't bite their own ass, they can be something. Which is completely amazing with dumb Dom Capers and dumber Ted Thompson on the regime.
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7 years ago

Taysom Hill is the next best thing!!! Who cares about the Packers on a Packers website? It's better to covet thy neighbors wife than appreciate your own. We have things to be MILDLY excited about. The defense got 7 sacks today and special teams put points on the board. Guess who doesn't play on defense or special teams? Aaron Rodgers. Granted Buccaneers are only a 4 win team so it's not like we can buy Super Bowl tickets. It's fucking progress though!

If this team doesn't bite their own ass, they can be something. Which is completely amazing with dumb Dom Capers and dumber Ted Thompson on the regime.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



you forgot the other stooge. If it wasn't for the Bucs terrible qb with all his over thrown passes, the game would have never went to OT.
uffda udfa
7 years ago
You'd rather talk about a QB who threw for 84 yards and barely got us past TAMPA? It's a juxtaposition considering an old passion of mine. I was laughed at by many banging the drum for Hill. To hear he's Payton's guy to be his next franchise QB while we're left barely hanging on due to that decision is vital to discuss on a Packers board.

Our management made the decision to keep Lenzy Pipkins over Taysom Hill because of the need our management created at that position and it's inability to fix it in the off-season. So, what we did is exactly what we do when we draft...we go NEED over TALENT. This is what need over talent looks like. Lenzy Pipkins buried on the depth chart unlikely to ever be a player for us vs. Payton ecstatic over getting a franchise QB via our mistake.

Sorry, about the 4.4 thing... I couldn't recall if it was 4.4 or 4.3 but recall them saying on the broadcast that he runs faster than Michael Vick and I recall Vick as a 4.3 guy. Just checked...Vick was 4.25 and they said he was faster.

TALENT is what this team needs. It doesn't go for TALENT...it likes these plain Jane players...I don't get it. Michael Clark has TALENT...size, hands and wingspan. Use it. Janis has world class speed and strength wasting away on ST's. Can't find a package of plays to utilize him in over all these years? We like these try hard guys over these game breakers.

Hill will be on my mind as we go forward. Can't wait to see what he does with the Saints over the years. It should hopefully be just another thing looking back that says we were mismanaged.


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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


Zero2Cool
7 years ago
We shouldn't confuse physical ability as football talent.

Sean Payton using physically gifted player on special teams that can come in and play QB is very smart. Hill was thought to flip to Free Safety (I read it online, so must be true) so maybe he could play DB in a pinch too?

I'm with the group wanting to have kept Hill back then and hasn't changed. I just won't say he's the next franchise QB because he can run 4.4 speed.

Football. Player.

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uffda udfa
7 years ago
Did you notice the look on Payton's face at end? Would bet MM has never had that for Hundley.

I saw Hill live. He was fun to watch. Such a ceiling but we had to hold onto our investment.

I gotta believe we wouldn't have used Taysom's abilities anyway so he's in a much better place. Hundley can run but MM won't accentuate his only strength so why would he use Hill's advantage?
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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


beast
7 years ago

I gotta believe we wouldn't have used Taysom's abilities anyway

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



No I don't think MM would use a QB on STs...

But the video above reminds me of something I've said about Janis and might be said about Hill... if they're got that much speed and can tackle, then maybe think about working them into back-up FS some... while they might not have the instincts to play close Safety, if they do have great speed, and are a willing tackler, then they might be able to learn deep Safety as it's more wait until you see it and then react hard to it and their great speed can make up for a lack of instincts.

And who knows, maybe Janis and/or Hill would have the instincts for it as well.

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uffda udfa
7 years ago
If we're going to do it with the great Herb Waters...

Use what you have where it helps you. Why sit on talent? Why?

It's unorthodox what Payton did but I love it just like I loved using 88 at RB. We only did it because we needed to. Necessity shouldn't be the mother of invention with an innovative intelligent HC. Have always felt MM is lacking in the mental category. Thought that was a Holmgren strength but not as strong as I'd like. Gotta have intelligence. 12 is brilliant. The matching is very inequitable.
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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


DoddPower
7 years ago
I doubt Hill is going to amount to anything more than an average backup quarterback, at best. However, it's hard to imagine he could possibly be as bad as Hundley, especially with the Packers running game. Losing him was a mistake. But at least we got a bunch of bottom of the roster scrubs still.
dhazer
7 years ago

You'd rather talk about a QB who threw for 84 yards and barely got us past TAMPA? It's a juxtaposition considering an old passion of mine. I was laughed at by many banging the drum for Hill. To hear he's Payton's guy to be his next franchise QB while we're left barely hanging on due to that decision is vital to discuss on a Packers board.

Our management made the decision to keep Lenzy Pipkins over Taysom Hill because of the need our management created at that position and it's inability to fix it in the off-season. So, what we did is exactly what we do when we draft...we go NEED over TALENT. This is what need over talent looks like. Lenzy Pipkins buried on the depth chart unlikely to ever be a player for us vs. Payton ecstatic over getting a franchise QB via our mistake.

Sorry, about the 4.4 thing... I couldn't recall if it was 4.4 or 4.3 but recall them saying on the broadcast that he runs faster than Michael Vick and I recall Vick as a 4.3 guy. Just checked...Vick was 4.25 and they said he was faster.

TALENT is what this team needs. It doesn't go for TALENT...it likes these plain Jane players...I don't get it. Michael Clark has TALENT...size, hands and wingspan. Use it. Janis has world class speed and strength wasting away on ST's. Can't find a package of plays to utilize him in over all these years? We like these try hard guys over these game breakers.

Hill will be on my mind as we go forward. Can't wait to see what he does with the Saints over the years. It should hopefully be just another thing looking back that says we were mismanaged.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



I like how hes the next franchise quarterback, do you mean the franchise like Ryan Leaf, or maybe jamarcus Russell. Oh wait maybe like Tim Couch yeah thats it lol. Oh wait you mean like RG3 or maybe even Colin Karedick. Nevermind your right they don't compare because they didn't get put on special teams lol. If you think of it we should have put Cobb as our franchise qb he played QB in college.
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