dyeah_gb
7 years ago
Maybe he was being critical of himself. I have called myself a bonehead on occasion.
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nerdmann
7 years ago

Statwhores are like that don'tcha know? 🤣

Originally Posted by: wpr 



When you're starting your 4th and 5th string tackles, might be time to take a three step drop and get the ball out. If you want a stupid play in that situation, try consistently holding the ball for 8 seconds.
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Porforis
7 years ago

When you're starting your 4th and 5th string tackles, might be time to take a three step drop and get the ball out. If you want a stupid play in that situation, try consistently holding the ball for 8 seconds.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



So basically we should have played the game like Andy Dalton and the Bengals. Because that's foolproof and an assured win right?

Snark aside, I do wish that we could make adjustments mid-half.
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7 years ago

When you're starting your 4th and 5th string tackles, might be time to take a three step drop and get the ball out. If you want a stupid play in that situation, try consistently holding the ball for 8 seconds.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Nerd I get what you are saying but look at the last 2 games closer. Aaron is not standing int he pocket waiting and waiting for someone 20 yards down field to come clean. Aaron is running around for his life on almost every single play. He is buying time because no one is open. Those quick little passes went for nearly no additional yards every single time. You can't win a game by passing for 2-3 yards and hoping the defender with miss the tackle.
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Barfarn
7 years ago
On the play Dunlap beat Bulaga and grabbed Rodgers from behind around the neck and brought Rodgers down and he threw the ball away to avoid the sack.

Dunlap got off of Rodgers with some attitude and Rodgers was not happy, as Dunlap was getting off Rodgers kinda pushed him away. Steratore chased after Dunlap while pointing and barking at him. Then the down ref came to Steratore and Rodgers was listened to them; as the refs agreed to something Rodgers nodded as if in agreement with their decision not to throw a flag.

[This discussion might have been about intentional grounding]

After 2-3 seconds, a true delayed reaction, Rodgers looks pissed; he then turns to his right and in a normal voice mouths whatever he's mouthing. Steratore would have been about 5 yards to Rodgers' right, lining up for next play. There is no doubt, Rodgers is talking to Steratore.

I think Dunlap did something to Rodgers either during the sack or while on the ground, or said something or just laid on him a bit too long. Whatever it was, Steratore saw it; but ate the flag.

Not sure if Rodgers' delayed reaction was due to suddenly recognizing his neck or head was hurting or he was arguing the call in a way that he thought would not show up Steratore. Refs will take a lot of abuse if they;re not shown up publicly.

I think Rodgers was mad a flag was not thrown on Dunlap.

I save the games, those that didn't might be able to find this play in Bengal/Dunlap highlights.
beast
7 years ago

Dunlap got off of Rodgers with some attitude and Rodgers was not happy, as Dunlap was getting off Rodgers kinda pushed him away. Steratore chased after Dunlap while pointing and barking at him. Then the down ref came to Steratore and Rodgers was listened to them; as the refs agreed to something Rodgers nodded as if in agreement with their decision not to throw a flag.

[This discussion might have been about intentional grounding]

After 2-3 seconds, a true delayed reaction, Rodgers looks pissed; he then turns to his right and in a normal voice mouths whatever he's mouthing. Steratore would have been about 5 yards to Rodgers' right, lining up for next play. There is no doubt, Rodgers is talking to Steratore.

I think Dunlap did something to Rodgers either during the sack or while on the ground, or said something or just laid on him a bit too long. Whatever it was, Steratore saw it; but ate the flag.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



Thanks for the breakdown, and if that's the play I think it is, I was wanting the OL over them to shove the defender and missing Lang on that play, as it was appearing the defender was doing something extra to Rodgers and holding him down on the ground even after the play was over..

It looked almost like a professional wrestlin submission hold, as in maybe it wasn't really hurting but he was holding, flexing and they were wiggling on the ground.
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Barfarn
7 years ago

Nerd I get what you are saying but look at the last 2 games closer. Aaron is not standing int he pocket waiting and waiting for someone 20 yards down field to come clean. Aaron is running around for his life on almost every single play. He is buying time because no one is open. Those quick little passes went for nearly no additional yards every single time. You can't win a game by passing for 2-3 yards and hoping the defender with miss the tackle.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Here's the game tying drive:
Play 1: 1st and 10 -Bennett is open on a curl for 8 yards and Monty in flat for 3-4. Rodgers passes this up scrambles for his life and hits Allison on a comebacker for 17.
Play 2: 1st and 10 –Shuffle pass to Monty for 1 yard, but Monty should have gotten 3-4 at least [Something was wrong with him].
Play 3: 2d and 9- Blitz up middle quick pass to Allison for 9 or more; but dropped. [Adams, Bennett and Nelson all open for 4-5 yards at least].
Play 4: 3rd and 9- Slight roll out to get angle on out, quick pass to Allison on 11 yard out.
Play 5: 1st and 10-Quick pass to Allison for 3.
Play 6: 2nd and 7-Allison is open for at least 3; Bennett open for at least 2; Rodgers passes them up. McCray and Murphy with a chip keep pocket clean. Hits Jordy on comebacker for 10.
Play 7: 1st and 10-Quick pass to Monty for 5 yards. Bennett was open for at least 5 as well
Play 8: 2nd and 5-Quick pass to Bennett for 6
Play 9: 1st and 10-Quick pass to Adams for 9
Play 10: 2nd 1: Adams is wide open for 3 on quick pass; pocket is not bad McCray doing great; Murphy giving up ground on a bull rush, to at about 2.2 seconds, so Rodgers tries to hit Monty in endzone, INC
Play 11: 3rd and 1: Run to Monty for 1st
Play 12: 1st and G at 7: Linsley snaps early when Lawson jumps; Rodgers with free play scrambles and goes for broke.
Play 13: 1st and G at 3: Slight roll out to get angle on out, quick out to Jordy for TD.

Receivers were open on EVERY play; Rodgers went sandlot on Play 1 and maybe a bit on plays 6 and 10. Rodgers didn’t need to do it at all. If he's patient and executes the offense even with McCray and Tabor Pepper at Tackle, we can cut Vogel.
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