Zero2Cool
8 years ago

McCarthy: 'Zero issue' trying for 2 every time

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But he won't because he just refuses to annihilate the other team to ensure victory.
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TheKanataThrilla
8 years ago
What is our record on 3rd and 2(or less) and 4th and 2(or less)? I don't recall it being very good, but perhaps you just remember screwing up more than you do making it. Lacy in better shape should certainly help along with a tall TE in Jared Cook.
Zero2Cool
8 years ago

What is our record on 3rd and 2(or less) and 4th and 2(or less)? I don't recall it being very good, but perhaps you just remember screwing up more than you do making it. Lacy in better shape should certainly help along with a tall TE in Jared Cook.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



Including the playoffs, the Packers were 5-for-7 on 2-point conversion attempts last season. As long as you hit 50%, you're in good shape.
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nerdmann
8 years ago

But he won't because he just refuses to annihilate the other team to ensure victory.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



This dude doesn't have the BALLS to continue playing football in the 3rd quarter if he's up by 5 points. He already wants to run dive plays to Kuhn to run out the clock with 8:00 remaining in the 3rd.

Get real man.
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Cheesey
8 years ago
"Zero issue"......Kevin, what issue are you causing???😂
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sschind
8 years ago
So one week you are playing the Browns and you score 5 TDs. You go for 2 after each one and make it every time and you win the game 40-0. The next week you play the Seahawks and you score 2 TDs, you go for 2 each time and don't make either one and you lose the game 13-12. Its still great because hell you are 5 of 7 on 2 point conversions on the year and as long as you are over 50% its all good right? Hell yeah, lets go for 2 every time.
Zero2Cool
8 years ago

So one week you are playing the Browns and you score 5 TDs. You go for 2 after each one and make it every time and you win the game 40-0. The next week you play the Seahawks and you score 2 TDs, you go for 2 each time and don't make either one and you lose the game 13-12. Its still great because hell you are 5 of 7 on 2 point conversions on the year and as long as you are over 50% its all good right? Hell yeah, lets go for 2 every time.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



The 2nd failed two-point conversion came when the Packers did a kneel-down to end the Hail Mary Lions game to avoid injury or fluke play. I guess you could say they converted 5 of 6.

As you can see from below, the Packers converted two-point attempts against Seahawks, Vikings, Cardinals, Panthers and Redskins, all of which were in the playoffs.

Seahawks 1 - 1
Lions 0 - 2
Vikings 1 - 1
Cardinals 1 - 1
Panthers 1 - 1

Redskins 1 - 1
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PackerTraxx
8 years ago
I think they should line up to go for two every time. If Aaron believes they have the right call against the D or that he can audible into the right call for the D, go for it. If he's not confident he can make an off sides move, a penalty would stop the play/clock without a time out, and then punt or repeat. 😲 😕 😂
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sschind
8 years ago

The 2nd failed two-point conversion came when the Packers did a kneel-down to end the Hail Mary Lions game to avoid injury or fluke play. I guess you could say they converted 5 of 6.

As you can see from below, the Packers converted two-point attempts against Seahawks, Vikings, Cardinals, Panthers and Redskins, all of which were in the playoffs.

Seahawks 1 - 1
Lions 0 - 2
Vikings 1 - 1
Cardinals 1 - 1
Panthers 1 - 1

Redskins 1 - 1

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




I see where you are coming from and yes, a team like the Packers probably would make better than 50% of their tries. Heck they may even make 83.33 percent of their tries over the course of the season if they went for it every time (I doubt it but they might) the thing is in some games 1 point doesn't really matter, in some games it does. It doesn't matter if you make 5 of 6 in games you win big if that one you fail to convert on costs you a close one. I don't have a problem if they try it more often but to simply say lets do it every time doesn't make any sense and it has nothing to do with being afraid to pour it on.

As far as McCarthy's comments, the only way he doesn't have an issue going for it every time is if he does go for it every time and we all know he won't so in reality, he does have an issue with going for it every time.
Zero2Cool
8 years ago

I see where you are coming from and yes, a team like the Packers probably would make better than 50% of their tries. Heck they may even make 83.33 percent of their tries over the course of the season if they went for it every time (I doubt it but they might) the thing is in some games 1 point doesn't really matter, in some games it does. It doesn't matter if you make 5 of 6 in games you win big if that one you fail to convert on costs you a close one. I don't have a problem if they try it more often but to simply say lets do it every time doesn't make any sense and it has nothing to do with being afraid to pour it on.

As far as McCarthy's comments, the only way he doesn't have an issue going for it every time is if he does go for it every time and we all know he won't so in reality, he does have an issue with going for it every time.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



PFT Writer

Mathematically, there’s no question that it would be the right call for some teams. Last year across the NFL, kickers went 1,146-for-1,217 (94.2 percent) on extra points, while offenses went 45-for-94 (47.9 percent) on two-point conversions. In other words, an extra point kick produced, on average, 0.942 points, while a two-point conversion attempt produced, on average, 0.958 points. The risks already (slightly) outweigh the rewards of going for two.

Michael David Smith wrote:



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We’ve studied it, and mathematically, it does make sense.

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