Just to cement this, perhaps, you'll listen when Andrew Brandt tells you and not me: (nationalfootballpost.com)

And guess what team showed some decent interest again in 2008? Yes, the Packers (along with the Eagles and Cowboys). But again, despite getting Brett's hopes up again, the Packers bowed out of the bidding (I had left the Packers at that point but heard the anger and frustration from Brett’s camp). Moss re-signed with the Patriots on March 3rd. Favre retired from the Packers on March 4th. Coincidence?

Read this story where you can read all about the twice failed Moss deals and how angry Brett was with TT's lack of aggressiveness...the same lack of aggressiveness I lament to this day.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Randys-rant-was-almost-a-Packer-twice 

---Please, read the above so you can learn from someone who worked closely with Ted Thompson and put to bed all the false ideas you have about what happened with Brett, Randy and retirement. Going to guess there'll be no applause for me but there was for someone telling me I was wrong when I was completely right.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

No. What I typed is correct. This is where I need to do better as far as my composure as it drives me crazy when people do what you just did. You said what I typed was incorrect when it was completely correct. I should be used to this by now around here.

Here is what you're referring to but it's not the whole story: (ESPN.com)

MILWAUKEE -- Brett Favre acknowledged his anger over the team's unwillingness to pull off a trade for wide receiver Randy Moss, but denied Monday he ever really wanted the Green Bay Packers to trade him.

"I was frustrated a couple weeks back when Randy Moss was traded to New England," Favre said on the Packers' website. "I never wanted to be traded and I don't want to be traded. I want to be in Green Bay. I want to finish my career as a Packer."

After Favre spent Saturday venting about the Packers' front office in a handful of media interviews at his annual charity golf tournament, Fox Sports' website reported Sunday that Favre's agent called Packers general manager Ted Thompson shortly after last month's NFL draft to request a trade.

That request was denied, according to the report, and Packers coach Mike McCarthy eventually calmed Favre down and got him to admit that he never really wanted to play elsewhere.

"Sometimes when I get frustrated, I let my emotions get the better of me," Favre said in the statement.

Favre, who told the team in February that he was returning for his 17th NFL season, reiterated his commitment to the Packers.

The Packers have a three-day mandatory minicamp beginning Friday, and it remains unclear whether Favre, who had surgery to remove bone spurs from his left ankle in late February, will attend.

"As I said in February when I announced that I was coming back, I am excited about the young talent on our team and the improvements we're going to see from one year to the next," Favre said. "I really enjoy the young guys I'm playing with.

"I'm working hard down in Mississippi right now, rehabbing, and I plan to be in the best shape of my life. I look forward to playing with this team and seeing what we can do. I think we can be pretty good."

==== That's what you're remembering. Here's what you've forgotten the following season where Randy was a FA:

Favre had spoken to Moss late last week and was willing to commit to more than just this season if Moss and the Packers could come to an agreement. But the Packers did not pursue Moss, who re-signed with the Patriots on Monday.

Brett got all "mentally tired when Ted didn't get Randy the 2nd time around. Ted Thompson failed to trade for him which you can see above clearly pissed Brett off and then when he had ANOTHER chance to get him he didn't get it done and Brett became mentally tired and retired.

This is always tough because I know what I'm talking about. You follow me up and post half the story and say that I'm not correct and get some also uninformed poster applauding your post. It shocks me that you don't understand what happened with Brett, Randy and retirement. It was probably the biggest news in the org since Reggie and to this day many don't have a clue what went down.

Randy resigned on Monday in New England and this is what Bus Cook said the following Tuesday morning:

Favre's agent, Bus Cook, told Mortensen that, as of Tuesday morning, there were no plans for Favre to hold a news conference.

"I talked to Brett this morning and I told him, 'Nobody forced you to make this decision to retire, but the flip side is nobody encouraged you to play,'" Cook told Mortensen. "Two years ago, Ted [Thompson] encouraged him to play, but there was nothing this time around from them offering encouragement or him to come back." (Source ESPN.com)

---So, again, just like I said earlier before I was told I was incorrect Brett retired right after Ted Thompson didn't get it done the 2nd time with Randy. Oh, he claimed that had nothing to do with his decision but he also claimed in the article above that he wanted to retire a Packer and we all know he was lying now. He desperately wanted Randy Moss and twice he saw his GM fail to bring him in.

Here's Mike McCarthy on Brett's agent saying the reason for Brett's retirement was "No Moss":

"But I can tell you one thing, never once in all my conversations with Brett this offseason has he ever asked or told me that we had to have Randy Moss for him to come back and play," McCarthy told Mortensen. "Randy Moss' name never came up once. And it bothers me that [Favre's agent] has made this an issue."

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

That's true but you know what?

Ted was in the same position with Bert Favor, and did he sign Randy Moss? Marshawn Lynch? HELL NO. He knew Bert had a closing window and still, DID NOT PANIC.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

Ted Thompson also had Aaron Rodgers waiting in the wings. John Elway doesn't have that. Big difference.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 

We're about to see just how great John Elway is.

- qb Peyton Manning
- qb Brock Osweiller (who was drafted to be the heir apparent)
- te Owen Daniels (released)
- lb Danny Trevathan
- dl Malik Jackson
- rb C.J. Anderson

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Let's see if he can maintain that consistency for 11 years.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

I think it just proves that you can win and win it all using multiple different approaches. We have won with mostly a draft and develop. The Pats have won with a more blended approach. And the Broncos have won with a fire all the bullets in the clip.

The difference is the later generally falls off for a period and can't sustain. The prior two, sustain more consistently. There is a small margin between the first two... but based purely on results, one could argue the middle ground is slightly more productive. I use those three examples because all three have Hall of Fame type QB's pulling the trigger.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z