nerdmann
9 years ago

Something to consider here when comparing Elway to Thompson is Thompson inherited a team that was picking in the bottom half of the draft every year and Elway inherited a team that had been picking towards the top of every round. Not taking away from Elway, he did win a Championship and that's what it's about. It's just hard to say Elway is better than Thompson when being the almighty word here, objective!!

Didn't spend a lot of time here, but here's where they originally were selecting. I would have to think the Packers would have a little better roster if they were picking there too. Then again, the Broncos developed their players so they do deserve a lot of credit for that.

2011 - 2nd (Elway first year as Exec)
2010 - 14th
2009 - 12th
2008 - 12th
2007 - 21st
2006 - 15th

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Elways also has a team located in an area where weed is legal plus billionaire owners who can make side deals.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
beast
9 years ago

John Elway is the Anti-Ted Thompson?

Meaning that Elway's lets his drafted and developed future starting QB get away in free agency, unlike Ted Thompson did?
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DoddPower
9 years ago

John Elway is the Anti-Ted Thompson?

Meaning that Elway's lets his drafted and developed future starting QB get away in free agency, unlike Ted Thompson did?

Originally Posted by: beast 



The quarterback that was so good he was benched for shitty old Peyton Manning this season! heh heh.

Elway had a price for Brock and he wasn't going to budge. He probably knows he's nothing more than average, at best.
Zero2Cool
9 years ago

John Elway is the Anti-Ted Thompson?

Meaning that Elway's lets his drafted and developed future starting QB get away in free agency, unlike Ted Thompson did?

Originally Posted by: beast 



How did he let him go? The Texans paid huge to get him after seven starts. Seven. If anything, it's a credit to Elway for not freaking out and matching the offer. You or I can QB that team to wins.
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DoddPower
9 years ago

How did he let him go? The Texans paid huge to get him after seven starts. Seven. If anything, it's a credit to Elway for not freaking out and matching the offer. You or I can QB that team to wins.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yeah, the only way it was a mistake is if Brock actually turns out to be the real deal. Otherwise, Elway easily made the right decision.
Zero2Cool
6 years ago
Fascinating thread, and then adding this little bit makes it more so.

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