MM on the Hot Seat? · PACKERSHOME

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

http://www.nbcsports.com/video/mike-mccarthy-hot-seat-after-another-green-bay-packers-playoff-failure

--- How interesting to see a national voice with a bit more objectivity than Packers fans themselves lays out some harsh truth of the failure in Green Bay under Mike McCarthy and TT.

Couldn't agree with him more than I do. I would say it isn't next year he should be on the hot seat it should've started before this season. One more failure and hopefully he's gone. Too bad Aaron will be 34 by then and perhaps it'll be too late to realize what should've been realized by now.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

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rabidgopher04
Member

8 years ago

I'm not one to have jumped quickly on the fire Mike McCarthy bandwagon, but I think it's time. Kind of how Dungy was fired from Tampa Bay - he couldn't get them over the hump. Even with Manning, they only won one Super Bowl. I just don't think Mike is the guy to get it done and he's had 10 years to prove it. One Super Bowl, with the talent we have/had is not enough.

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Barfarn
Senior Member

8 years ago

Is this what I sound like when i say get rid of Rodgers?😂 😂
Mike McCarthy is BY FAR the best coach we've had [Maybe Lombardi is an exception].

Holmgren spent 10 years in Seattle went to POs 6 years; but only had 3 legit playoff teams and only won 4 PO games. He had 3 teams go to POs with 9-7 records from a despicably weak division.

MM's development of the youngsters and taking a late 1st rnd QB and molding him into a HOFer cannot even be duplicated by Belichek. His game plans for AZ and Seattle last year were brilliant.

Good thing: Mike McCarthy is 100% safe until Murphy or Ted Thompson issue a vote of confidence.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

Is this what I sound like when i say get rid of Rodgers?😂 😂

Mike McCarthy is BY FAR the best coach we've had [Maybe Lombardi is an exception].

Holmgren spent 10 years in Seattle went to POs 6 years; but only had 3 legit playoff teams and only won 4 PO games. He had 3 teams go to POs with 9-7 records from a despicably weak division.

MM's development of the youngsters and taking a late 1st rnd QB and molding him into a HOFer cannot even be duplicated by Belichek. His game plans for AZ and Seattle last year were brilliant.

Good thing: Mike McCarthy is 100% safe until Murphy or Ted Thompson issue a vote of confidence.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn

Yes. 😎

How did ol' Billy B do in Cleveland before joining the Patriots. Fired from the Cleveland Browns.

Okay... We've got one intelligent voice saying it's not the coaching. That leaves our GM or our players at fault for our 5 years in a row of playoff failure.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

dhazer
Veteran Member

8 years ago

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

uffda I had to check your facts to find out about Billy B, and he was not fired from the Browns. He was fired when they moved to Baltimore and started a new team. And your right look what Mike McCarthy did with a 1st round qb that could have easily been picked #1 but dropped. Billy only took a 6th round qb and made him into a sure fire HOFer 😝 BTW his time in Cleveland brought a playoff team to them. Damn can't we get this guy in Green Bay lol

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

steveishere
Veteran Member

8 years ago

He should be on the hot seat. This teams offense is his system and it became one of the worst in the nfl for most of the year. He stubbornly kept saying the players just need to play better when it was clear they couldn't. He had no answer to whatever was wrong and I'm worried about next year even though Jordy is coming back unless something gets changed scheme wise. I think teams figured out mikes offense and he doesn't know what to do about it

Mucky Tundra
Veteran Member

8 years ago

For me, he's been on the hot seat since the wild card loss vs the 49ers. I said here last year in the middle of season that he should earn his extension in the playoffs and not before. If he's not going now, then the coaching staff needs more new blood than two position coaches.

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uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

Originally Posted by: steveishere

I gotta believe he's panicked by this and is even more so now that Joe Philbin has no chance of coming back to help rescue him. Who is he going to get to help him as an OC? He's going to be calling plays so what OC wants to be here in some support role. Sherman Lewis can attest that ain't good for your future upward mobility being an OC who doesn't call plays. Without fresh blood I think history will repeat itself and many here expecting the return of Jordy to be a panacea will be left scratching their heads and all of a sudden finding they happen to agree with getting someone else in here.

If this org just shuffles the deck with coaches it's really doesn't bode well for next season with or without Jordy. This offense was stymied by good defenses for years and once you take away our deep game we're a pretty below average offense. This is why long before this season I pined for SPEED, SPEED, SPEED. That is one of the main reasons I bang the Janis drum so hard. He's the one guy who can change games with it. We need more speed. I'm dying to see if our GM has actually gotten through his skull that we need to improve our team speed at WR, TE and RB? If he doesn't get it, now, then he never will.

We can talk all day about coaching records and the like but when a coach is a great coach it's always funny to note the type of players he has around him and how they perform when they don't have great QB's. I still think Belichick with Matt Cassell at QB is the best validation of how great that organization actually is top to bottom coaching on down to the players.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

8 years ago

Right now only way Mike is on the Hot Seat, is if Ted is on the Hot Seat. Because at right now, only way Mike is leaving is if new GM comes in and "brings in their guys".

I think this was a very bad year for Mike. It showed he as trouble adjusting. Back in 2010 most of the injuries were to the defense so Mike didn't have that much adjustment, only Finley and having the WR corp made it so the offense really didn't need to change. This year he didn't adjust when players got hurt, and that is what Great coaches do.

I do lay more blame on Ted though for not being able to get all the way again. I love the draft and develop approach, but that can only take you so far. Drafting the Best players regardless of position gets you good players, but it can't fill every position because the odds of the best player matching your biggest needs is not very good. FA is where you can fill needs. All we are doing now is drafting and developing to keep the status quo.

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nerdmann
Premier Member

8 years ago

#10

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins

Ted gave us good enough players to advance beyond where we went this year AND last year.

Mike's system is good and his QB development is great, but he goes into a shell late in games and "plays not to lose." Which causes him to lose.

He seems to have a psychological block which prevents him from dominating lesser opponents.

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