buckeyepackfan
9 years ago
Let's All remember winning on the road is the toughest test any NFL team faces.

No matter who they are facing(unless it's The Browns)😄

Packers are going to need all their guys back on D!

Forcing turnovers is of the upmost importance!

Sustaining drives on Offense 2nd.

The Packers will have to play there best all around game to date to come away with a victory!

PACKERS 27
BRONCOS 20
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mi_keys
9 years ago
In Manning's last 13 games including playoffs he has put up the below stat line:

266 / 496 (53.7% completions) with 13 touchdowns, 16 interceptions, and 2,904 yards (223 per game and only 5.9 per attempt). That's a 66.6 QB rating.

In that time, it's clear to see that he lacks zip on his passes, balls are floating, he's frustrated, and he's making poor decisions.

This year he is 31st in QB Rating. He's 22nd in completion percentage. 17th in yards. 26th in TDs. 31st in yards per attempt. All while leading the league in interceptions.

He's been a significantly less efficient passer than Colin Kaepernick this year. Colin bloody Kaepernick. And he doesn't even have the mitigating factor of being able to run.

Football Outsiders has a metric they call defense-adjusted yards above replacement and another they call defense-adjusted value above average. It's intended to measure a player's performance relative to the rest of the league and adjusted for the strength of the defenses he's going against. Manning ranks 33rd out of 33 qualifying quarterbacks this year in both metrics.

I wasn't using hyperbole when I compared him to Rex Grossman. He's been that bad.
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luigis
9 years ago

Did you glance at the stats I posted about how many Broncos have scored and how few Packers have given up? At this stage of their careers, Rivers and Wilson are more proficient and competent than Peyton Manning. The Packers have historically done well against Peyton.

2000 - 25 of 44 294 yards 3 TD 1 INT (Packers W)
2004 - 28 of 40 393 yards 5 TD 0 INT (Packers L) ( this was in the RCA dome, protecting Peyton from the elements)
2008 - 21 of 42 229 yards 0 TD 2 INT (Packers W)

Peyton hasn't faced the Packers with Dom Capers.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Your last sentence scares me to death. Peyton will have Capers for lunch.

It doesn't matter how the Broncos are playing, QBs tend to look better against us, it happened to Rivers and many many others. This has been a constant problem in Capers defenses.

Luis
luigis
9 years ago

Manning hasn't been a competent QB since halfway through last season. Actually not a single one of the "incompetent" QBs we've faced this year rates lower than Manning.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Josh Freeman has never been competent in his whole life and yet he had his best game against us a few years ago. For some reason Capers makes the opponents QBs look better and for some reason Cutler has immunity to this.
Luis
nerdmann
9 years ago

Josh Freeman has never been competent in his whole life and yet he had his best game against us a few years ago. For some reason Capers makes the opponents QBs look better and for some reason Cutler has immunity to this.

Originally Posted by: luigis 



This game won't be about Peyton Manning. It will be about whether our team can put the other team away.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
mi_keys
9 years ago

Josh Freeman has never been competent in his whole life and yet he had his best game against us a few years ago. For some reason Capers makes the opponents QBs look better and for some reason Cutler has immunity to this.

Originally Posted by: luigis 



Freeman's best game was a 5 touchdown, 0 interception performance against Seattle in December of 2010.
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luigis
9 years ago

Freeman's best game was a 5 touchdown, 0 interception performance against Seattle in December of 2010.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



I stand corrected, he had TWO good games in his life 🙂
Luis
9 years ago
Peyton Manning isn't the worry going into this game. The worry going into this game is if this offense can put up points against that Denver defense.
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greengold
9 years ago

Every time we face a competent QB he looks better than he is against us. So yes, I think Manning can throw 6 or 7 TDs and about 400+ yards against our secondary. Our DBs are not as good as we think they are and the coaching of the secondary has been really bad for years in Green Bay.

Originally Posted by: luigis 



Seriously? I say Manning throws 1 or 2 TDs Sunday night. You say 6 or 7. We'll see who is closer.

"The coaching of the secondary has been really bad for years in Green Bay???" You've always been a Capers hater, but now Joe Whitt is a bad coach as well? When did this happen?







luigis
9 years ago

Seriously? I say Manning throws 1 or 2 TDs Sunday night. You say 6 or 7. We'll see who is closer.
"The coaching of the secondary has been really bad for years in Green Bay???" You've always been a Capers hater, but now Joe Whitt is a bad coach as well? When did this happen?

Originally Posted by: greengold 



I've always been a Capers hater? How so? I like our defense but I think our secondary is very bad. The DL is playing great and we are finally creating some pass rush. But for some reason guys tend to be constantly open against us.
I'm not saying Whitt is a bad coach but the combination of coaching and personnel in the secondary has been our Achilles heel since 4th and 26.


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bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
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bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
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