greengold
9 years ago

Every time we face a competent QB he looks better than he is against us.

Originally Posted by: luigis 



This isn't right. Actually this year's Packer team is doing quite well against opposing QBs.

(Passer rating)
Jay Cutler 2015 ave:86.2 Against GB: 67.5 Difference: -18.7
Wilson 2015 ave:97.0 Against GB: 91.8 Difference: -5.2
Alex Smith 2015 ave:90.3 Against GB: 80.2 Difference: -10.1
Kaepernick 2015 ave:82.8 Against GB: 55.4 Difference: -27.4
Nick Foles 2015 ave:78.8 Against GB: 23.8 Difference: -55.0
Rivers 2015 ave:99.2 Against GB: 99.7 Difference: +0.5

Okay, so they allowed Rivers a whopping +0.5 points above his season average. That must be what you meant.

I've always been a Capers hater? How so?

Actually I don't know how you feel. I can only read what you post. The only things I have seen you post about him are "Capers should be fired" or "it's time for Capers to go." That and claims like "Every time we face a competent QB he looks better than he is"

4th and 26.

Wow, 2003 salt meet almost healed wound.
Let's see, Head Coach Mike Sherman, DC Ed Donatell. Six years before the Packers even hired Joe Whitt. How is that Whitt's fault?
mi_keys
9 years ago

I stand corrected, he had TWO good games in his life 🙂

Originally Posted by: luigis 



He has 13 career games surpassing 100 QB rating. None of them are against the Packers.
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luigis
9 years ago
It is true that this year we have managed to contain the QB quite well, except for Rivers.

Now let's be honest, I think we all know what I mean when I say the secondary has been our problem for years. This year we can think that Rivers just played a hell of a game if that is the case then we'll keep Manning under control and we'll have a defensive struggle against the Broncos. Then the SD game is just an anomaly and we have improved.

I think our defense is not as good as we think it is and I think Denver's defense is not as good as we think it is.

But whatever the result of the game it won't proof anything, it can be 48-45 and I can be wrong, or it can be 7-3 and then we let Newton pass for 500 yards (LOL).

The only thing we all agree is how sweet a win will be.



I would like to know which QBs are better against blitzing defenses because I think we are good against QBs that are weak against the blitz and we are bad against QBs that know how to handle the blitz, this is because Capers scheme is usually blitz-heavy. It works wonders against Cutler and is probable a bad idea against Rivers. Manning.... we'll see.
Luis
greengold
9 years ago

It is true that this year we have managed to contain the QB quite well, except for Rivers.

Originally Posted by: luigis 


Rivers is a hell of a QB, and unless one believes fantasy football stats are the most important thing, they contained him pretty well too. Below his season average in completion %, yards/attempt, and TDs. Right at his season average in passer rating. Good quarterbacks throw for a lot of yards when their team is LOSING.

Now let's be honest, I think we all know what I mean when I say the secondary has been our problem for years. This year we can think that Rivers just played a hell of a game if that is the case then we'll keep Manning under control and we'll have a defensive struggle against the Broncos. Then the SD game is just an anomaly and we have improved.

Originally Posted by: luigis 


There have been problems in the past, but 4th & 26 happened when these players were in middle school! Shields and Burnett were young players for that 2011 defensive debacle but I don't think we can lay that season on just them.

This year's secondary, while inexperienced, shows a lot of promise. 6 INTs, only 7 TD passes allowed (actually 6, wasn't one last week against a LB?) And we already looked at the opposing passer ratings.

I think our defense is not as good as we think it is and I think Denver's defense is not as good as we think it is.

But whatever the result of the game it won't proof anything, it can be 48-45 and I can be wrong, or it can be 7-3 and then we let Newton pass for 500 yards (LOL).

The only thing we all agree is how sweet a win will be.



I would like to know which QBs are better against blitzing defenses because I think we are good against QBs that are weak against the blitz and we are bad against QBs that know how to handle the blitz, this is because Capers scheme is usually blitz-heavy. It works wonders against Cutler and is probable a bad idea against Rivers. Manning.... we'll see.

Originally Posted by: luigis 



Manning used to be a good quarterback. He might still have something for us but I don't think so. I predict a narrow victory for the Packers.

If Newton passes for 500 yards it will be because they are LOSING the game. I'm all for that. [cheers]


sschind
9 years ago

It is true that this year we have managed to contain the QB quite well, except for Rivers.

Now let's be honest, I think we all know what I mean when I say the secondary has been our problem for years. This year we can think that Rivers just played a hell of a game if that is the case then we'll keep Manning under control and we'll have a defensive struggle against the Broncos. Then the SD game is just an anomaly and we have improved.

I think our defense is not as good as we think it is and I think Denver's defense is not as good as we think it is.

But whatever the result of the game it won't proof anything, it can be 48-45 and I can be wrong, or it can be 7-3 and then we let Newton pass for 500 yards (LOL).

The only thing we all agree is how sweet a win will be.



I would like to know which QBs are better against blitzing defenses because I think we are good against QBs that are weak against the blitz and we are bad against QBs that know how to handle the blitz, this is because Capers scheme is usually blitz-heavy. It works wonders against Cutler and is probable a bad idea against Rivers. Manning.... we'll see.

Originally Posted by: luigis 



Historical statistics going back years are pretty much useless when talking about a current team. We have several new starters and several new contributors over last season so maybe we fixed the problem. Like I've said before, using the first 6 games of this season as our measuring stick, which game do you think was the one most out of the ordinary. The one where the opposing QB threw for 500 yards (but only managed 20 points by the way) or one of the others where none of the QBs managed over 300 yards and only one had over 225. Here we are rolling along pretty good against opposing QBs when one comes along and has a stellar game (yardage wise) and all of a sudden our secondary has always been our weak spot. I think it is far more likely that we hold Manning under 300 yards than it is he throws for 500.
Zero2Cool
9 years ago
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The last two outings of Rodgers vs Wade the Packers scored 45 and 42 points with Rodgers tossing 9 TD's and 0 INT's.

Rodger is 3 - 2 against Wade, which includes the Dallas 2007 game where he came in for Brett Favre.
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nerdmann
9 years ago
I like our chances. The QB differential should be in our favor. (Not to jinx us of course.)
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago

At Denver Manning will have his best game in the last 10 years, he is not worst than Rivers and he is playing at home. The Denver defense will be tested for real for the first time in the season, they are not as good as everybody thinks they are.

Broncos 38 Packers 27

Originally Posted by: luigis 



I thought you were crazy, but you were helluva lot more on the dart than I was. I did not think the Broncos would have their best offensive outing against the Packers.
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luigis
9 years ago

I thought you were crazy, but you were helluva lot more on the dart than I was. I did not think the Broncos would have their best offensive outing against the Packers.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



You have no idea how I wanted to be wrong.
But the truth is we haven't defeated a good team on the road in the last 3 years and our secondary is quite bad.

I have faith against the Panthers!
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