Wow Just looked at our next 2 games ...· Page 2

Dulak
Veteran Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#11

Remember a few years ago we went into the Jets house and beat them? Did it to the Texans a couple years ago too.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I remember field goals was it 2 or 3 we got vs them and put them with 0 points

mi_keys
Senior Member

9 years ago

#12

At Denver Manning will have his best game in the last 10 years, he is not worst than Rivers and he is playing at home.

Originally Posted by: luigis

Not this year. He's not even in the same ballpark as Rivers through 7 weeks this year. Manning is on track for the single worst season of his career. The only other season that would be remotely close to as bad would be his rookie year. He's on pace for 18-19 touchdowns and 26-27 interceptions for the year. He's 31st in passer rating, one spot ahead of Ryan Mallett. If not for his name we'd be comparing him to Rex Grossman at the helm of the 2005 Bears. Manning looks a shell of his former self.

I will be sorely disappointed if we allow him to be effective.

Born and bred a cheesehead

Dulak
Veteran Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#13

Originally Posted by: mi_keys

If he sucks so bad - why the good record? ... the defense?

mi_keys
Senior Member

9 years ago

#14

If he sucks so bad - why the good record? ... the defense?

Originally Posted by: Dulak

How did the Bears go 13-3 and make a Super Bowl with Rex Grossman? How did the Ravens and Bucs win Super Bowls with Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson? How did the 2011 Broncos go 7-1 in Tim Tebow's first 8 starts?

It's a team game. It's possible to win with terrible quarterback play. Right now the Broncos are winning in spite of not because of Peyton Manning. The defense giving up the fewest yards per game and the second fewest points per game is a huge part of that. A weak schedule so far is another.

He struggled in the second half of last year and it's even worse through the first six games this year. He's 39. It's not unfathomable to think he's past it.

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luigis
Member

9 years ago

#15

Originally Posted by: mi_keys

Please don't make me make a list of QBs that we allowed to be effective under Capers.

Luis

mi_keys
Senior Member

9 years ago

#16

Here's another fun stat: Denver has allowed 8 touchdowns through the air this year; Peyton Manning has 3 of them.

Born and bred a cheesehead

steveishere
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#17

Please don't make me make a list of QBs that we allowed to be effective under Capers.

Originally Posted by: luigis

So you think Peyton is going to throw 8 TDs? That is what it would take to be his "best game of the last 10 years". It's also more than he's thrown in the first 6 games combine this year. This years defense is also different from other seasons defenses and Peyton Manning is currently leading this years worst offense in the league. That is quite a set of circumstances you are expecting there.

luigis
Member

9 years ago

#18

Originally Posted by: steveishere

Every time we face a competent QB he looks better than he is against us. So yes, I think Manning can throw 6 or 7 TDs and about 400+ yards against our secondary. Our DBs are not as good as we think they are and the coaching of the secondary has been really bad for years in Green Bay.

Luis

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

#19

Originally Posted by: luigis

Did you glance at the stats I posted about how many Broncos have scored and how few Packers have given up? At this stage of their careers, Rivers and Wilson are more proficient and competent than Peyton Manning. The Packers have historically done well against Peyton.

2000 - 25 of 44 294 yards 3 TD 1 INT (Packers W)
2004 - 28 of 40 393 yards 5 TD 0 INT (Packers L) ( this was in the RCA dome, protecting Peyton from the elements)
2008 - 21 of 42 229 yards 0 TD 2 INT (Packers W)

Peyton hasn't faced the Packers with Dom Capers.

steveishere
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#20

Originally Posted by: luigis

Manning hasn't been a competent QB since halfway through last season. Actually not a single one of the "incompetent" QBs we've faced this year rates lower than Manning.

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packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed

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bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network

beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th

beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno

beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?

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beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's

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