Report: Jordy Nelson wants $10M per season· Page 4

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

10 years ago

Better not pay Jordy that if you're hoping on retaining Cobb who'll cost A LOT more. It won't even be close.

It's hysterical to read all these posts about how we're going to have all this cap space all of a sudden, when in the Graham thread it was exactly the opposite refrain. Fear Jordy's going to leave and your commentary does a 180.

Jordy is right to want this... he probably feels he's Greg Jennings equal if not superior so why would he take less than Jennings? I'm sorry...at 10 million per, I'm letting this season play out and hope he gets injured to reduce his price or the market shows him like it showed James Jones a few years back that the money ain't out there. Minnesota shouldn't be able to jump in to grab him like they probably would if they hadn't already given what they gave to Greg.

If Jordy doesn't take less than this, I'd let him walk and make sure we re-sign Randall. Pray Adams is something...Boykin is a steady performer. Janis and Abby might have something to them and you know if Jordy goes Ted Thompson will bring in a quality vet via FA! ????

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

wpr
Preferred Member

10 years ago

#32

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

How can you really say that you hope ANYONE gets hurt little alone a Packer? I hope Jordy has 2000 yards and 35 TD and then says pay me $15 mil.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#33

How can you really say that you hope ANYONE gets hurt little alone a Packer? I hope Jordy has 2000 yards and 35 TD and then says pay me $15 mil.

Originally Posted by: wpr

For the purposes of being able to retain him that would be best financially for the Packers. Do I want him to get hurt, personally...? No. Of course not.

Greg Jennings got hurt during his contract year after reportedly refusing a big money deal from us. It wasn't anything too major but it reduced his earning power. Something like that would be best for Green Bay if you want to be able to sign him at an affordable contract.

I would say the same thing of Randall Cobb. Him suffering another injury would be beneficial to our ability to lock him up for a lot less. I don't want him hurt but it'd be the best thing for the financial side of it for the Packers.

Jordy really can't afford to get injured at his age just like Greg couldn't...it cost Greg and it would cost Jordy. Do you want to have to pay Jordy 10 million to keep him or would you like to lose him to injury for a few games and get him back for significantly less?

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

wpr
Preferred Member

10 years ago

#34

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

I don't care about next year. It will take car of itself in due time. We don't know what the rookies are going to do. I pray for a banner year from both Jordy and Cobb. Myopic vision.

steveishere
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#35

Jennings is still the 9th highest paid WR in the league as far as average salary and that's after 2 consecutive injured seasons. He may have gotten less than he thought he would but I don't think it really lowered his earning power as much as you are trying to say it did.

StarrMax1
Registered

10 years ago

#36

How can you really say that you hope ANYONE gets hurt little alone a Packer? I hope Jordy has 2000 yards and 35 TD and then says pay me $15 mil.

Originally Posted by: wpr

Classless, all I can say about anyone hoping for an injury, I agree with you WPR, although I believe Jordy would still sign for 10 mil.

I'm betting Jordys agent is behind this 10 mil number and that Ted, Jordy and his agent will hammer out a fair contract that will pay Jordy what he is worth, and will be cap friendly to the Packers.

These contracts are all about signing bonuses and guaranteed money. The rest is "agent window dressing".

4 yrs, 12 mil signing bonus, another 12 mil guaranteed, that can all be spread out, base salary, 1 mil in 2015, 2 mil in 2016, 3 mil in 2017 and 9 mil in 2018.

2015 7 mil cap hit, 2016 8 mil cap hit, 2017 9 mil cap hit, 2018, 15 mil cap hit. By 2018 15 mil might not seem that much for a #1 WR. There's always restructure.

That's just a real basic outlay, but I believe when they get the contract done it will look real similar.

sschind
Senior Member

10 years ago

#37

Originally Posted by: StarrMax1

I think 24 million is too much guaranteed. You would be looking at 6 million a year in dead money minimum. I'd be surprised at anything over 15 or 16 in a 4 year deal. If you assume he will be around for the first three years anyway no sense not making the base higher and reducing the guarantee if he goes for it. Take away 9 million in guarantees add 3 million to each of the first three year's base and you have the similar numbers (adds 750 k for the first three years and reduces by 2.2 million the last year) It makes much more sense to the Packers and it reduces the dead money for the last year if worse comes to worse and they have to cut him lose. It adds a bit to the cap the first three years but reduces your 15 million number in 2018. They can also figure in this year still if they really want to and use up some of this years cap space. On the other hand if your/my numbers are agreeable to both sides it might be better to use this years money on Cobb and Bulaga.

Still, as a basic outline and numbers in general I think you are in the ballpark of what will get done and I think its very agreeable for both sides as Jordy will net 30 million assuming he plays out the first 3 years and is cut or restructures after that.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#38

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

The lack of cap space comments were DUE TO the retention of Randall Cobb and Jordy Nelson. Cause and Effect my friend, cause and effect.

DakotaT
Select Member

10 years ago

#39

Maybe they'll just let these guys play out their contracts and make a choice between Nelson and Cobb. The Packers are like a wide receiver factory anyway. It has a lot more to do with Rodgers than the receivers. I wouldn't consider either Nelson or Cobb a legitimate #1 receiver anyway. We haven't had that guy since Javon Walker, but he was dumb as a post and not worth the big contract either.

I think we have hard truth to face fellow Packers fans, the Packers field a bunch of #2 wide receivers and they are all interchangeable. There is a reason we drafted 3 wideouts this year.

cheeseheads123
Member

10 years ago

#40

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

Man, Jordy Nelson is criminally underrated. Even by us packers homers!

Why do you feel that he is a #2 and not a #1?

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