Better, I'm happy to see it's only my stupid head imagining things [grin1]

Originally Posted by: luigis 

There's no way you are going to tell me that some guy who literally LIVES for the draft and spends his freetime visiting bumf*ck nowhere to check out some random unknown prospect gave up on even a 7th round pick let alone gave up in the 3rd round and didn't care who he picked.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 

I don't think your dumb or anything. I just think it's a lot of speculation. I think the Packers were very pleased to draft Ha Ha. I think they think he was well worth the 21st pick, and that he will be a key member of the Packers defense for the next several years.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 

Vikings, Packers and Lions don't trade, that's just the way it works.


Cleveland did call of course offering a third and #26 for #21.

I'm 100% convinced about what happened, Thompson put Cleveland on hold and tried to negotiate his 2nd and two 3rds for another first round pick, planning to get two out of a list of 6-8 very good players that remained on the board.

Thompson didn't like Ha-Ha Clinton Dix, he was aiming to take Bucanon plus another 1st rounder.

When the trade didn't work we took CD and Thompson was pissed, he never ever traded again, he probably put his usual trade partners in the doghouse for the failed trades.

That explains the no-trades and why the very strange selections in round 3, we never planned to really use those picks.

Originally Posted by: luigis 

I would love to know if there was any temptation whatsoever to take Manziel there. He had to feel like he was sitting on a winning lotto ticket when Manziel fell to 21... he could take "Elvis" or he could trade down in grand style and accumulate more precious picks.

Ultimately, he chose to hang at 21. Very surprising...unless...he was that committed to wanting Ha Ha, or he didn't want Minnesota to land Manziel. We'll never know if he talked to the Eagles and what role they played in all this because they were said to be coveting Ha Ha.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

I would love to know if there was any temptation whatsoever to take Manziel there. He had to feel like he was sitting on a winning lotto ticket when Manziel fell to 21... he could take "Elvis" or he could trade down in grand style and accumulate more precious picks.

Ultimately, he chose to hang at 21. Very surprising...unless...he was that committed to wanting Ha Ha, or he didn't want Minnesota to land Manziel. We'll never know if he talked to the Eagles and what role they played in all this because they were said to be coveting Ha Ha.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

He didn't like Ha Ha? Crazy talk. He was on the phone with him for almost an hour as he fell to 21.


Lui, it just doesn't make any sense at all.

Originally Posted by: play2win