Zero2Cool
16 years ago
Source Link 


Brad Jones and Jarius Wynn might be late-round draft picks, but they have one distinct edge over most of their Green Bay Packers teammates: They were selected specifically to play in the new 3-4 defense.[img_r]http://cmsimg.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=U0&Date=20090501&Category=PKR01&ArtNo=90501150&Ref=AR&Profile=1058&MaxW=180&Border=0[/img_r]

Unlike first-rounders B.J. Raji and Clay Matthews, who also were drafted to fill roles in the front seven of the 3-4 scheme., Jones and Wynn arent expected to start right away and arent even shoo-ins to make the roster. Nevertheless, the Packers scouts saw something that suggested they could be part of the roster turnover that inevitably will accompany the dramatic change in scheme over the next two or three years.

The 3-4 scheme is as much in my view, as part of the vision, about player acquisition and about defense, coach Mike McCarthy said Friday.

Wynn, a defensive end from Georgia, and Jones, an outside linebacker from Colorado, have the general skill set 3-4 teams look for at their respective positions, but not the eye-catching attributes of the higher-round picks. They made their first appearance in Packers uniforms Friday at the teams opening practice of rookie-orientation camp

Wynn at 6-foot-2 5/8 and 275 pounds is a little small for a 3-4 defensive end, but the Packers think he has the frame to hold more weight comfortably.

Jones, 6-3 and 238, also is a just a touch on the light side for his position but said he adds weight easily if necessary, though the Packers have not said anything about that yet. More importantly, he had something of a breakout season last year playing the role of a 3-4 outside linebacker for Colorado last season, even though the scheme officially was a 4-3. He said he rushed the passer both from a standing position and three-point stance, and also had extensive responsibilities in pass coverage, depending on the defensive call.

It seems like its an ideal circumstance really, Jones said of being drafted by the Packers. I cant tell you how much Im excited to be in this circumstance where theyre switching over a 3-4 and they chose me, a guy whos familiar with the 3-4 and did that in college, to come play.

Though many 3-4 teams use high draft picks to fill the key playmaker roles at outside linebacker in the 3-4, they also take their shots in later rounds for backups and developmental prospects. Like all positions the failure rate is higher in the later rounds than early, but 3-4 teams also have uncovered some good players by taking those shots. [img_r]http://cmsimg.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=U0&Date=20090501&Category=PKR01&ArtNo=90501150&Ref=V1&Profile=1058&MaxW=180&Border=0[/img_r]

The best known is Pittsburghs James Harrison, who signed with the Steelers as an undrafted rookie out of Kent State in 2002, was released three times, but kept working and improving until last year he was named the NFLs defensive player of the year for the Super Bowl champions.

Another developmental outside linebacker who became a playmaker was Adalius Thomas, a sixth-round selection by Baltimore in 2000. He became a starter in 2002, and his production increased to the point that in 2007 he hit the free-agent market and signed a deal with New England that paid him $22 million the first two years.

Others who are starters or top backups as 3-4 outside linebackers are Clevelands David Bowens (fifth-rounder, starter) and Alex Hall (backup); Baltimores Jarrett Johnson (fourth-rounder, projected starter) and Antwan Barnes (fourth-rounder, backup); and Miamis Cameron Wake (undrafted CFL signee, projected starter) and Charlie Anderson (sixth-rounder, backup).

Jones was a three-year starter at Colorado who put up pedestrian numbers his first two years, but then in his expanded hybrid role as a senior had 78 tackles, including 14 for a loss, and seven sacks. The school also credited him with 14 quarterback hurries. He wasnt invited to the NFL scouting combine but helped himself this spring when he ran in the 40-yard dash in about 4.60 seconds at his campus workout.

His best chance to make a mark this season will be on special teams, which he played all four seasons at Colorado even though he was starter most of that time. McCarthy repeatedly has preached that switching to the 3-4 will improve the Packers special-teams play because more linebackers will be on the roster, and Jones is the kind of player hes talking about.

So Jones will get every chance to make this team as a seventh-round pick. But as far as becoming a real player?

Its all going to come down to hard work, he said. How hard do I want to work? How hard do I want to work in the weight room? Studying and learning the defense? And how hard do I want every play to make something happen?

The Packers drafted Wynn to play the lowest-profile and to some degree grunt position in the 3-4, defensive end. In the new schemes defensive ends primarily are two-gappers, that is, they play head-up over the tackles and try to occupy them so the linebackers can make tackles in the running game.

Wynn played both defensive end and tackle last year (three sacks, six hurries) and had the frame and power to convince the Packers he could play end in the 3-4. Teams using the 3-4 generally want their defensive ends to weigh anywhere from 290 pounds to 320 pounds, and the Packers might want Wynn to get that big in the future. But for now theyve told him to get in the 280 range, which is only about five pounds more than his current weight.

Wynn was a junior-college transfer whose time at a two-year school appeared to be of immense help. Rather than attend a conventional junior college, he went to Georgia Military College in Milledgville, Ga. The cadets had to abide by a rigid and full daily schedule that ran from formation at 5:45 a.m. to taps at 11 p.m.

His two years there still show. When meeting with reporters in the Packers locker room Friday he stood straight, looked each questioner directly in the eyes, and included sir or maam in his answers.

(The school) taught me a lot of discipline, respect, honor, he said. Just hard work



What do you think about that?
UserPostedImage
go.pack.go.
16 years ago
Well I see Jarius Wynn will be #94....

Anyway, I think we got two good back-ups and special teams players.
UserPostedImage
AJistheHawk50
16 years ago
they were drafted especially for the 3-4 so they better show promise
blank
Rockmolder
16 years ago
Well, I understand the Wynn pick if he's going to bulk up a little. I thought he was to light to play the DE and to big to play OLB, combined with a pretty bad 40.

I hope he'll stay effective while gaining a couple of pounds. Getting an extra D-lineman can't hurt us at all.
Fan Shout
dfosterf (14-Jun) : TWO magnificent strikes for touchdowns. Lose the pennstate semigeezer non nfl backup
dfosterf (14-Jun) : There was minicamp Thursday. My man Taylor Engersma threw
dfosterf (11-Jun) : There will be a mini camp practice Thursday.
Zero2Cool (11-Jun) : He's been sporting a ring for a while now. It's probably Madonna.
Martha Careful (10-Jun) : We only do the tea before whoopee, it relaxes me.
wpr (10-Jun) : That's awesome Martha.
Mucky Tundra (10-Jun) : How's the ayahuasca tea he makes, Martha?
Martha Careful (10-Jun) : Turns out he like older women
Martha Careful (10-Jun) : I wasn't supposed to say anything, but yes the word is out and we are happy 😂😂😂
Mucky Tundra (10-Jun) : I might be late on this but Aaron Rodgers is now married
Mucky Tundra (10-Jun) : Well he can always ask his brother for pointers
Zero2Cool (10-Jun) : Bo Melton taking some reps at CB as well as WR
Zero2Cool (10-Jun) : key transactions coming today at 3pm that will consume more cap in 2025
Zero2Cool (9-Jun) : Jaire played in just 34 of a possible 68 games since the start of the 2021 season
Zero2Cool (9-Jun) : reported, but not expected to practice
Zero2Cool (9-Jun) : Jenkins has REPORTED for mandatory camp
Zero2Cool (9-Jun) : I really thought he'd play for Packers.
buckeyepackfan (9-Jun) : Packers releasing Jaire Alexander.
Mucky Tundra (8-Jun) : (Context: he wants his defense to create turnovers)
Mucky Tundra (8-Jun) : Giants DC Shane Bowen tells players to “be a damn pirate."
dfosterf (6-Jun) : Semper fi !
Cheesey (6-Jun) : This is why I have so much respect for those that have gone through battles
Cheesey (6-Jun) : I can't even imagine what that would have been like
wpr (6-Jun) : "Come on, you sons of bitches. Do you want to live forever?"
wpr (6-Jun) : Facing a line of machine guns 2 time medal of Honor recipient, First Sergeant Dan Daly told his men,
wpr (6-Jun) : Another detachment went into the Belleau Wood.
wpr (6-Jun) : On the 6th the Marines took Hill 142 but suffered terrible losses.
wpr (6-Jun) : It’s time to remember dfoster’s Marine brothers in Belleau Wood. The battle went on from June 1-26. Nearly 10,000 casualties.
packerfanoutwest (6-Jun) : Nick Collins and Morgan Burnett have signed with the PACK
packerfanoutwest (6-Jun) : he won't be wearing #12, maybe he will wear number two
packerfanoutwest (6-Jun) : He will fail this season, should have retired
Mucky Tundra (5-Jun) : Thus the cycle of Hall of Fame Packer QBs going to the Jets and then the Vikings is broken
bboystyle (5-Jun) : Rodgers to steelers on 1 year contract
Zero2Cool (5-Jun) : It's the cycle of civilizations. Get lazier, lazier, softer, softer and vanish.
Martha Careful (5-Jun) : great point. every aspect of society, including art, culture and sports has degraded.
dfosterf (4-Jun) : Green Bay sweep meant something to society about stopping pure excellence. We have the tush push now
dfosterf (4-Jun) : We old Martha.
Martha Careful (4-Jun) : *front four
Martha Careful (4-Jun) : Re frout four, I wish we had some Green "People Eaters" or a fearsome foursome
dfosterf (4-Jun) : *directions*
dfosterf (4-Jun) : Just don't ask him for driving direct
dfosterf (4-Jun) : Jim Marshall was an all-time great DE for the Purple People Eaters. Didn't like him. That's a compliment. RIP
Zero2Cool (3-Jun) : ooppppss
Zero2Cool (3-Jun) : “Kenny Clark played all of last season hurt by the way and got surgery to fix it in January”
Mucky Tundra (3-Jun) : @ByRyanWood How much did the injury affect him last fall? “A lot.”
Mucky Tundra (3-Jun) : @ByRyanWood Kenny Clark said he had foot surgery in January. Injured his foot in opener against Eagles and played through it all year.
Zero2Cool (3-Jun) : Golden is wearing guardian cap again. I bet he plays with it on too.
Mucky Tundra (3-Jun) : All the stuff I'm reading from Lions fans are pointing at his toe; he more or less has permanent turf toe in one of his big toes
dfosterf (3-Jun) : Kenny played through it, and a shame he gets little credit for that, imo
dfosterf (3-Jun) : Big men. I hope it's not the undoing of Kenny Clark
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2025 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
COMMANDERS
Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
Browns
Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
Cardinals
Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
PANTHERS
Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
EAGLES
Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
Giants
Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
Bears
Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
RAVENS
Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
Vikings
Recent Topics
16-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

15-Jun / Random Babble / Martha Careful

14-Jun / Around The NFL / beast

14-Jun / Community Welcome! / dfosterf

13-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

13-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Adam

12-Jun / Random Babble / Martha Careful

12-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

12-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

12-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

11-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

10-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

10-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

7-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

6-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.