DoddPower
10 years ago

Better, I'm happy to see it's only my stupid head imagining things [grin1]

Originally Posted by: luigis 



I don't think your dumb or anything. I just think it's a lot of speculation. I think the Packers were very pleased to draft Ha Ha. I think they think he was well worth the 21st pick, and that he will be a key member of the Packers defense for the next several years.
steveishere
10 years ago
There's no way you are going to tell me that some guy who literally LIVES for the draft and spends his freetime visiting bumf*ck nowhere to check out some random unknown prospect gave up on even a 7th round pick let alone gave up in the 3rd round and didn't care who he picked.
luigis
10 years ago

There's no way you are going to tell me that some guy who literally LIVES for the draft and spends his freetime visiting bumf*ck nowhere to check out some random unknown prospect gave up on even a 7th round pick let alone gave up in the 3rd round and didn't care who he picked.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



I'm not saying that. I'm saying Ted Thompson probably didn't like his prospects for the 3rd round and would have loved to trade two 3rds and the 2nd for another 1st round. We could have ASF and Bucanon instead of CD.

Of course when it didn't work he did the best he could.


Luis
luigis
10 years ago

I don't think your dumb or anything. I just think it's a lot of speculation. I think the Packers were very pleased to draft Ha Ha. I think they think he was well worth the 21st pick, and that he will be a key member of the Packers defense for the next several years.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



I would have drafted Ha-Ha myself. He is an inmediate improvement to the team and an automatic starter over MD Jennings.

But if you ask me Ha Ha or ASF AND Bucanon then I'm going with the second option without a doubt!


Luis
uffda udfa
10 years ago
I would love to know if there was any temptation whatsoever to take Manziel there. He had to feel like he was sitting on a winning lotto ticket when Manziel fell to 21... he could take "Elvis" or he could trade down in grand style and accumulate more precious picks.

Ultimately, he chose to hang at 21. Very surprising...unless...he was that committed to wanting Ha Ha, or he didn't want Minnesota to land Manziel. We'll never know if he talked to the Eagles and what role they played in all this because they were said to be coveting Ha Ha.
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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


dfosterf
10 years ago


I just want to see if Ha Ha can play play for us us.


play2win
10 years ago

Vikings, Packers and Lions don't trade, that's just the way it works.


Cleveland did call of course offering a third and #26 for #21.

I'm 100% convinced about what happened, Thompson put Cleveland on hold and tried to negotiate his 2nd and two 3rds for another first round pick, planning to get two out of a list of 6-8 very good players that remained on the board.

Thompson didn't like Ha-Ha Clinton Dix, he was aiming to take Bucanon plus another 1st rounder.

When the trade didn't work we took CD and Thompson was pissed, he never ever traded again, he probably put his usual trade partners in the doghouse for the failed trades.

That explains the no-trades and why the very strange selections in round 3, we never planned to really use those picks.

Originally Posted by: luigis 



He didn't like Ha Ha? Crazy talk. He was on the phone with him for almost an hour as he fell to 21.


Lui, it just doesn't make any sense at all.
play2win
10 years ago

I would love to know if there was any temptation whatsoever to take Manziel there. He had to feel like he was sitting on a winning lotto ticket when Manziel fell to 21... he could take "Elvis" or he could trade down in grand style and accumulate more precious picks.

Ultimately, he chose to hang at 21. Very surprising...unless...he was that committed to wanting Ha Ha, or he didn't want Minnesota to land Manziel. We'll never know if he talked to the Eagles and what role they played in all this because they were said to be coveting Ha Ha.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Your whole line of thought is really interesting. Add to this Ted knew how important his top need areas were, and S was tops all the way.
luigis
10 years ago

I would love to know if there was any temptation whatsoever to take Manziel there. He had to feel like he was sitting on a winning lotto ticket when Manziel fell to 21... he could take "Elvis" or he could trade down in grand style and accumulate more precious picks.

Ultimately, he chose to hang at 21. Very surprising...unless...he was that committed to wanting Ha Ha, or he didn't want Minnesota to land Manziel. We'll never know if he talked to the Eagles and what role they played in all this because they were said to be coveting Ha Ha.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Maybe the conversation was something like:

Ted: We are going to take Manziel
TeamB: LOL, nobody believes you
Ted: He's my BPA I'm taking him what about a trade?
TeamB: Take him and we talk about a trade later
Ted: !@#!$@#%%!


Luis
luigis
10 years ago

He didn't like Ha Ha? Crazy talk. He was on the phone with him for almost an hour as he fell to 21.


Lui, it just doesn't make any sense at all.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Well there are 4 options

1) Ted loved Ha-Ha so he refused all trade offers to be sure to take him.
2) Ted preferred two good players to Ha-Ha and tried to trade down but couldn't
3) Ted didn't like being fixed to pick Ha-Ha and tried to trade down threatening to draft Manziel and nobody bit
4) Ted really wanted to draft Manziel and then trade him or stash him as a backup but couldn't do it with the need we had at safety

If you ask me I have no idea.
Luis
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