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11 years ago
in a word- yes.

When Thompson worked under former general manager Ron Wolf from 1992-'99, he watched Wolf select a quarterback in seven of eight drafts. Some, like Matt Hasselbeck, Mark Brunell, Ty Detmer and Aaron Brooks, paid off handsomely. Others, like Ronnie McAda, Kyle Wachholz and Jay Barker, never panned out.

Regardless, Wolf was always willing to roll the dice at the game's most important position.

In Thompson's five drafts between 2009-'13, he selected just one quarterback — B.J. Coleman in the seventh round in 2012. That left the Packers without a parachute when Rodgers went down.




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I don't expect GB to draft a qb every year. I do expect them to pick one about every 3 years. And not just someone in the 7th round either. They can take a decent qb in the 5th and develop him over time. He will eventually move on which is why they need to keep drafting them.
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play2win
11 years ago
I'm not so sure about this. I would be more inclined to say Safety was our greatest need. Had we had a good one, or two, we might have beaten SF and CIN, and maybe another game since Rodgers went down, and we would still be leading the division.

For whatever reason, Ted neglected the FS position when it was a glaring need.
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I'm not so sure about this. I would be more inclined to say Safety was our greatest need. Had we had a good one, or two, we might have beaten SF and CIN, and maybe another game since Rodgers went down, and we would still be leading the division.

For whatever reason, Ted neglected the FS position when it was a glaring need.

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Safety is a need as well. Ted can neglect more than one position at the same time.
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11 years ago
Not to rail on him, but a drafted player, or a FA or trade would have been very welcome. Banjo was a nice pickup.
texaspackerbacker
11 years ago
The gigantic elephant in the room, of course, is virtually the whole rest of the team which Ted has been grossly deficient in building. Tolzien or Flynn would undoubtedly have been good enough if we had even and average O-Line and Defense.
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11 years ago

The gigantic elephant in the room, of course, is virtually the whole rest of the team which Ted has been grossly deficient in building. Tolzien or Flynn would undoubtedly have been good enough if we had even and average O-Line and Defense.

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TheKanataThrilla
11 years ago

in a word- yes.




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I don't expect GB to draft a qb every year. I do expect them to pick one about every 3 years. And not just someone in the 7th round either. They can take a decent qb in the 5th and develop him over time. He will eventually move on which is why they need to keep drafting them.

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But Ted did pick some other QBs the writer just used the years to make the biggest failure sell. Ted also pick Brian Brohm and Matt Flynn in 2008, but the quote chooses to put the cut-off after that year to try and make a point.
hardrocker950
11 years ago
I only agree with this to an extent. The front office sent the previous backups on their way, and brought new guys in with limited time to prepare and learn.

With that said, I don't think Tolzien and Flynn are as bad as many think. Their lack of success also falls on the offensive line. The defense has not done them many favors either. Aside from the turnovers in Detroit, they have been giving up too many plays.

Remember that football is a team sport. You cannot simply blame one individual for a loss.
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11 years ago

But Ted did pick some other QBs the writer just used the years to make the biggest failure sell. Ted also pick Brian Brohm and Matt Flynn in 2008, but the quote chooses to put the cut-off after that year to try and make a point.

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I guess you didn't understand the article. Stating GB drafted 2 QB back in 2008 is the same as drafting 1 every year or nearly every year is the same. It isn't.
It wasn't so much that he cut it off to slant the story it was to illustrate he hasn't done anything recently.
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Dulak
11 years ago

doesn't change the fact that it happened and that Flynn was indeed regarded as one of the top back ups.

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- my comments are general comments and just piggy packing on your post Steve -

I do agree with the backup comment - but dont know whom is at fault - in previous posts it is suggested MM is more at fault preseason which IMO was a total flub-up.

preseason was just a bunch of dudes who wernt any good throwing the football around. I thought young might do a little better with time but then we hured some short dude 5'10 to play NFL QB with our pass first team.

bleh - it doesnt take a rocket scientist to realize that - that experiment wouldnt work -

so who knows maybe tolzien will turn into a decent QB someday - but we stuck him front and center and he threw 5 INTs ... he did. Flynn was the only guy I had any sort of confidence in but even this was minor because there was no time to practice.

If we are blaming the loss and the QB play on flynn alone - that is crazy. IMO flynn is at best a ok backup; but I havnt seen him play since he was last here; our Oline got decimated during that game; lacey had no game.

anyways ...

I do agree that our QB situation was one of the main reasons we lost - I was cringing all preseason when MM was 'trying to keep' harrel when he just sucked so bad and he did last year also. Reminded me of brohm - I mean whats the deal with I guess its MM and these lame QBs? ...
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