MintBaconDrivel
11 years ago

Detroit — One ball fell five yards shy of a double-covered James Jones. Another hung high and late to Jarrett Boykin.

He gift-wrapped an interception. He was a human punching bag throughout.

There will be no $25 million contracts parlayed from this performance.

But do not make Matt Flynn the scapegoat for this 40-10 debacle in Detroit. And don't point the finger at Scott Tolzien, at Seneca Wallace, at any quarterback the Packers start. For all the weekly support coach Mike McCarthy has given each player — Wallace's experience, Tolzien's deep ball, Flynn's no-huddle acumen — they've been in a desperate, long-shot situation all along.

The chaos we see now at quarterback — two touchdowns, seven interceptions, zero wins in five games — began in the off-season.

JSOnline  wrote:


nerdmann
11 years ago
Bullshit.

Ted got Mike the guys Mike wanted. Mike had Harrell, whom he supposedly liked last year.

Mike had Coleman. Mike's plan was for Coleman to develop and replace Harrell. Mike did not successfully develop Coleman. That's not Ted's fault.

So Ted went out and got some guys. Wallace turned out to be a lying little bitch who punked out in his first start, but Tolzien looks like a real player. He's just gonna need some seasoning, which is normal for a #3.

As for Flynn, he's had one shitty game. He had TWO practices before it, and was under a constant jailbreak by the Loins Dline. Remember, Flynn was widely regarded as one of the top backups in the league. He probably still is that.
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musccy
11 years ago
I generally agree with what you said, Nerd, plus...

Flynn and co. can't play NT, S, MLB, or TE nor are they responsible for teams staying on the field the closing 9 minutes of games when the Packers needed the ball back. A.R's injury has shown us how much of a band aid he has been for this team, smoke screening its many deficiencies.

dhazer
11 years ago

Bullshit.

Ted got Mike the guys Mike wanted. Mike had Harrell, whom he supposedly liked last year.

Mike had Coleman. Mike's plan was for Coleman to develop and replace Harrell. Mike did not successfully develop Coleman. That's not Ted's fault.

So Ted went out and got some guys. Wallace turned out to be a lying little bitch who punked out in his first start, but Tolzien looks like a real player. He's just gonna need some seasoning, which is normal for a #3.

As for Flynn, he's had one shitty game. He had TWO practices before it, and was under a constant jailbreak by the Loins Dline. Remember, Flynn was widely regarded as one of the top backups in the league. He probably still is that.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



top backup in the league regarded by who? Hell he got cut from 2 teams that are starting their #3 qbs. This is another one of those I want my guy type thing and I am sticking to it no matter what.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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steveishere
11 years ago

Bullshit.

Ted got Mike the guys Mike wanted. Mike had Harrell, whom he supposedly liked last year.

Mike had Coleman. Mike's plan was for Coleman to develop and replace Harrell. Mike did not successfully develop Coleman. That's not Ted's fault.

So Ted went out and got some guys. Wallace turned out to be a lying little bitch who punked out in his first start, but Tolzien looks like a real player. He's just gonna need some seasoning, which is normal for a #3.

As for Flynn, he's had one shitty game. He had TWO practices before it, and was under a constant jailbreak by the Loins Dline. Remember, Flynn was widely regarded as one of the top backups in the league. He probably still is that.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



He had to have surgery for a torn abductor tendon, dumbass.
steveishere
11 years ago

top backup in the league regarded by who? Hell he got cut from 2 teams that are starting their #3 qbs. This is another one of those I want my guy type thing and I am sticking to it no matter what.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



The guy who gave him a 26m dollar contract?
dhazer
11 years ago

The guy who gave him a 26m dollar contract?

Originally Posted by: steveishere 




I bet he don't any more lol I am sure Flynn was happier than shit to get the call from Green Bay. Another chunk of money he made from playing one great preseason game against the Lions.

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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steveishere
11 years ago

I bet he don't any more lol I am sure Flynn was happier than shit to get the call from Green Bay. Another chunk of money he made from playing one great preseason game against the Lions.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



doesn't change the fact that it happened and that Flynn was indeed regarded as one of the top back ups.
dhazer
11 years ago

doesn't change the fact that it happened and that Flynn was indeed regarded as one of the top back ups.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



I see you now use the word was as in past tense I thought you meant people still regard him as a top backup
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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steveishere
11 years ago

I see you now use the word was as in past tense I thought you meant people still regard him as a top backup

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



Nerdmanns post that you initially replied to used the word was.
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