Ted Thompson's failure to acquire quality backup QB is biggest reason for...· Page 5

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

11 years ago

I knew someone would say that but ummm how quickly we forget that we picked Raji high and same with Hawk. But your right we never draft that high lol

Originally Posted by: dhazer

A.J. Hawk was selected 5th overall in 2006 draft. I believe that was the ensuing draft after Ted Thompson took over and was still weeding out Sherman's blunders.

B.J. Raji was 9th overall in 2009, not 2nd. There's a vast difference there in value.

How quickly we forget the facts, lol. Packers already had a franchise QB at that time so if they had the 2nd overall and Rams came knocking with that deal, no question whatsoever Trader Ted bites.

You're reaching at anything to blindly ridicule Ted Thompson.

steveishere
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#42

I was just doing some reading and i came across something I am sure we would never see Ted Thompson do and that was to make a trade like the Rams did last year and they are really making out on it now. They traded away the #2 overall pick last year for he Redskins for the sixth pick and a second rounder that year, and the first round picks in 2013 and 2014.

So they dropped down 4 spots in the 1st round and got an extra 2nd round. But the Rams are really reaping the deal coming next year when as it stands right now would have the 2nd overall pick and if the Texans win a game or 2 could be the #1 overall pick and could very easily have 2 top 10 picks overall with their pick and then they still have 2 1st round picks next year.

That is a good way to start your rebuilding or filling of holes lol.

To bad we would never see anything like this from TT.

Originally Posted by: dhazer

Yeah Ted would never trade down in the draft. [palm]

dhazer
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#43

Yeah Ted would never trade down in the draft. [palm]

Originally Posted by: steveishere

He won't trade for future picks like the Rams did or like Billacheat seems to always do. That still pisses me off how billacheat some how finds suckers to trade him their 1st rounder.

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

wpr
Preferred Member

11 years ago

#44

He won't trade for future picks like the Rams did or like Billacheat seems to always do. That still pisses me off how billacheat some how finds suckers to trade him their 1st rounder.

Originally Posted by: dhazer

I assume Billycheat now uses his spy cam on other owners &/or their wives. Photos make great leverage for negotiations.

nerdmann
Premier Member

11 years ago

#45

He won't trade for future picks like the Rams did or like Billacheat seems to always do. That still pisses me off how billacheat some how finds suckers to trade him their 1st rounder.

Originally Posted by: dhazer

Robert Kraft has alot of influence in business circles.

http://thefixisin.net/

Would you leave a multi-billion dollar business up to chance?

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

steveishere
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#46

He won't trade for future picks like the Rams did or like Billacheat seems to always do. That still pisses me off how billacheat some how finds suckers to trade him their 1st rounder.

Originally Posted by: dhazer

Oh so Ted would be fine with trading back but if a team threw in some extra picks for the next season he'd just decline them? lol that's stupid. Funny you mention Belicheck though considering Ted has gotten Clay Matthews, Greg Jennings, and Casey Hayward with patriots draft picks.

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#47

I'm sick of hearing how the losing is because of not having a backup. While winning games before Rodgers got hurt, the offense wasn't exactly clicking with Rodgers. And if people actually look not only were they playing with backup QBs, they were playing without Finley and without Cobb. Also during the losing streak, the oline was beat up. Lang had a concussion, D-Smith has been hurt, they had been shuffling around, Lang a C, Barclay to G, Newhouse at RT. They even moved Newhouse to RG to get Barclay back on the end.

This last win, the Oline was back to what it had been the rest of the season.

If we want to look at someplace to blame, Why go further than the head coach. This is the second time the offense has really faced injuries. Once in 2010 when Finley went down, and this year with Rodgers, Finley and Cobb. And both times the offense has struggled. If he is really an offensive guru, he sure doesn't seem to be able to readily adjust.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

steveishere
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#48

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins

I'm pretty sure they were a top 5 offense overall and top 5 in both rushing and passing before Rodgers got hurt.

Porforis
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#49

I'm pretty sure they were a top 5 offense overall and top 5 in both rushing and passing before Rodgers got hurt.

Originally Posted by: steveishere

The defense not being able to stop anybody also factors into that. Hard to stay balanced when you're constantly playing from behind, and hard to put up big numbers when you're getting killed in T.O.P.

DoddPower
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#50

Originally Posted by: Porforis

Yeah, I don't really blame the backup QB for much. Perhaps if any of them had been through the complete 2013 training camp and preseason, but they haven't. I continue to place most the blame on the defense. They needed to pick up the slack of Rodgers being out, and for the most part, they have failed miserably. The circumstances don't matter so much to me. Rodgers is out, find a freakin' way to get it done. The team is/was depending on you. I can't be certain that it's Capers or the players fault (or both), but I do think it's time for another defensive coordinator to have a chance. Sometimes, starting fresh is a good thing, and I think that's the case with the Packers defensive coordinator . . . regardless of all the extenuating circumstances.

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packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed

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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network

beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th

beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno

beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?

packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans

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beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.

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