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buckeyepackfan
11 years ago

I guess it is forbidden to express an opinion or to wish for the team to make any changes whatsoever without being criticized. I doubt any one on this site feels that they are able to become the GM of the Packers organization. Well except nermann.
Maaaaaaay as well beeeeee sheeeep and foooooollow bbbbblindly along with noooooo oooopiniooooon of ooooooour oooooown.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I thought you would know, this was not directed at you.

I applauded, then quoted hard-rocker for having the sense to post about football being "a team" sport.
The rest was just poking a little fun at those who tend to blame certain players for losses.

Just tryin' to lighten up what has been a pretty gloomy place lately.


I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
hardrocker950
11 years ago

WHAT????? Where did you ever get that idea from?

Obviously, you haven't been reading packershome GM geniuses posts for long!!!

Watch after EVERY loss or win for that matter, certain individuals will be pointed out and blamed for the loss, or blamed for the game being closer than it should have been, or get blamed for a game that happened 5 years ago, or get blamed for a future game, now, because our online geniuses CAN SEE INTO THE FUTURE!!!!!

Now Get With The Program!!!!!!!!

[grin1]

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Hehe, ya - they can have their opinions which they are entitled to, and are welcome to share. I try to avoid being roped into too much media hype, as I tend to be more of a free thinker.

Although I have often pointed fingers at individuals - my thoughts are the same. One player alone does not cost you a game.
wpr
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11 years ago

I thought you would know, this was not directed at you.

I applauded, then quoted hard-rocker for having the sense to post about football being "a team" sport.
The rest was just poking a little fun at those who tend to blame certain players for losses.

Just tryin' to lighten up what has been a pretty gloomy place lately.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



I wasn't specifically railing at you. Just the www in general.
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wpr
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11 years ago

I never said no one should give their
opinions. Everyone should be held accountable
in their jobs.
But look around the NFL. Are the Packers the only
team that has weaknesses?

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 


never said they weren't.


No GM or coach is perfect.



never said they were.


The Packers
have been better then most NFL teams in
the NFL for more then 20 years. We can count
the number of bad years on our fingers, and
have fingers left over.



yes they have.


Yet no team is perfect. No draft pick is a
sure thing. No one is right 100% of the time.



never said otherwise.


Ted and McCarthy have, all will make more
mistakes. I know they will try to correct them.



obviously. Just expressing an opinion as to what should have been done ad what they can do in the future.


I bet that if Aaron Rodgers wouldn't have got hurt the Packers
would be in 1st place in the division and
all this hand wringing wouldn't be going
on right now.



not quit true. even in the 15-1 season many could see flaws in team and expressed concern over them.


If this is a one year glitch, then it's not a
deal breaker. If they stink next year then
it might be time to clean house.



they have had the same issues for several years and have not addressed them.


If you disagree with me, you have every
right to. It's all just opinions.
I might be totally wrong.
I only base my opinions on what I think.
It would be a boring world if we all agreed all
the time!



yep.


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TheKanataThrilla
11 years ago

I didn't write the story. I don't know what he slant is. Ted did begin his tenor by drafting qbs. 4 in the first 4 years. Then quit. Only 1 in the next 5 years. I think the author was pointing out that he changed his philosophy. He should have mentioned the earlier years but his focus was on the more recent drafts and how that was different than Wolf. I think he should also have said the rules in the NFL have changed as well. Then again I don't know how much space he is allowed for the story. He could have said a lot of other things but probably didn't have time or space to do so.

Someone may say that there was no need to draft a qb when Rodgers is the qb for the team. I think his comparison was to say Wolf had Favre and he still drafted 7 qb in 9 years. Until 1999 (Aaron Brooks R4) he never drafted anyone higher than the 5th round yet ended up with a few decent (serviceable) qbs in Detmer, Brunell and Hasselbeck.

Personally I liked Ted having the flexibility to draft other positions than qb but he still can't neglect the position indefinitely. I have talked about FAs. I prefer the qb to come from the draft. Pick up one qb and keep him on the PS for 2-3 years before he gets bumped up to #2. Then stick someone else on the PS to develop. Unless Aaron goes down in the first year of the growth process someone will be on the team to back him up that has a 3-4 years in the system before he moves on like Flynn did.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Great post.

To me personally it is not the drafting that mattered until we lost Flynn. We were all pretty happy with our situation until Flynn signed his big contract. Unfortunately I think we probably got too comfortable with Flynn as the back-up that we did get complacent drafting-wise and unfortunately for the QB position learning the system is something that just doesn't happen over night and free agents need time to develop and in our present situation that is not the case.
nerdmann
11 years ago

Great post.

To me personally it is not the drafting that mattered until we lost Flynn. We were all pretty happy with our situation until Flynn signed his big contract. Unfortunately I think we probably got too comfortable with Flynn as the back-up that we did get complacent drafting-wise and unfortunately for the QB position learning the system is something that just doesn't happen over night and free agents need time to develop and in our present situation that is not the case.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



Mike clearly planned on Coleman developing this TC.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
wpr
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11 years ago

Mike clearly planned on Coleman developing this TC.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



well yeah. You don't draft a kid if you don't think he is going to grow and develop.
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dhazer
11 years ago
I was just doing some reading and i came across something I am sure we would never see Ted Thompson do and that was to make a trade like the Rams did last year and they are really making out on it now. They traded away the #2 overall pick last year for he Redskins for the sixth pick and a second rounder that year, and the first round picks in 2013 and 2014.

So they dropped down 4 spots in the 1st round and got an extra 2nd round. But the Rams are really reaping the deal coming next year when as it stands right now would have the 2nd overall pick and if the Texans win a game or 2 could be the #1 overall pick and could very easily have 2 top 10 picks overall with their pick and then they still have 2 1st round picks next year.

That is a good way to start your rebuilding or filling of holes lol.

To bad we would never see anything like this from TT.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Zero2Cool
11 years ago

I was just doing some reading and i came across something I am sure we would never see Ted Thompson do and that was to make a trade like the Rams did last year and they are really making out on it now. They traded away the #2 overall pick last year for he Redskins for the sixth pick and a second rounder that year, and the first round picks in 2013 and 2014.

So they dropped down 4 spots in the 1st round and got an extra 2nd round. But the Rams are really reaping the deal coming next year when as it stands right now would have the 2nd overall pick and if the Texans win a game or 2 could be the #1 overall pick and could very easily have 2 top 10 picks overall with their pick and then they still have 2 1st round picks next year.

That is a good way to start your rebuilding or filling of holes lol.

To bad we would never see anything like this from TT.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



You're right, because it's highly unlikely a team he's built would be drafting #2 overall.
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dhazer
11 years ago

You're right, because it's highly unlikely a team he's built would be drafting #2 overall.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I knew someone would say that but ummm how quickly we forget that we picked Raji high and same with Hawk. But your right we never draft that high lol
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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beast (2h) : I was rooting for the Bears to win and hurt their draft pick status
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TheKanataThrilla (2h) : That was terrible.
TheKanataThrilla (2h) : Watching that game in its entirety yesterday is proof positive that I am a football addict.
beast (3h) : And horrible time management multiple times... and not being able to score more than 3 points on a team with talent
beast (3h) : Realizing the Bears didn't fix it from the previous week and do the same thing, getting the game to overtime
beast (3h) : They probably are not tanking, but they've absolutely mismanagement some things, such as Vikings seeing the Packers blocked FG and realizing
Zero2Cool (4h) : Crazy of Bears to have that mindset that is
Zero2Cool (4h) : Hail Mary stop away from 5 - 2. Not sure how that flips to tanking. Crazy mindset if true
beast (4h) : I've quietly questioned if Bears are tanking on purpose... they suddenly got a lot worse with some simple concepts like 101 clock management
wpr (7h) : Watching bares fans melt down over how putrid their team is, so enjoyable. It's the gift that keeps on giving.
Mucky Tundra (14h) : The Seattle Seahawks defeat the Chicago Bears 6-3. Jason Myers had 6 RBIs for Seattle while Cairo Santos had 3 RBI for Chicago
beast (15h) : Not nessarily, he might of been injured either way. He's playing about 50% of the games the last 4 years
Zero2Cool (21h) : If they'd been more patient with him, he'd be back already. Putting him out there vs Bears caused him to tweak it and here we are.
packerfanoutwest (21h) : well this is his last season with the PAck, book it
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Zero2Cool (26-Dec) : Could ban beast and I still don't think anyone catches him.
Mucky Tundra (26-Dec) : Houston getting dog walked by Baltimore
packerfanoutwest (25-Dec) : Feliz Navidad!
Zero2Cool (25-Dec) : Merry Christmas!
beast (25-Dec) : Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
beast (24-Dec) : Sounds like no serious injuries from the Saints game and Jacobs and Watson should play in the Vikings game
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : both games Watson missed, Packers won
Martha Careful (24-Dec) : I hope all of you have a Merry Christmas!
Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : Jacobs was just sat down, Watson re-injured that knee that kept him out 1 game earlier
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : I needed .14 that's. .14 points for the whole 4th quarter to win and go to the SB. Lol
Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Jacobs gonna be OK???
Zero2Cool (24-Dec) : Watson gonna be OK???
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
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