nerdmann
11 years ago

Yeah the last game was the one that mattered. I hate seeing capers quote his rankings all the time. I dont care if they were ranked first if they get utterly destroyed and embarrassed in a playoff game they had a shit defense. This was 2 times Capers had a team with a "top 15" ranking and had an all-time bad showing in the playoffs so dont tell me what your ranking was.

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That's all true, but at the same time, the statistics and rankings from the overall season are a pretty good barometer for the quality if your team's performance. Flukes can happen in one game.

I don't fear the Niners. They didn't dominate us, so much as we shit ourselves.
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Zero2Cool
11 years ago
I'd like to see rankings against playoff teams.
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I'd like to see rankings against playoff teams.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



nicht sehr gut
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Week 1 SFran Total Net Yards 377 H L
Week 3 Seattle Total Net Yards 238 A L
Week 5 Indy Total Net Yards 464 A L
Week 6 Houston Total Net Yards 321 A W
Week 13 Minn Net Yards Rushing 240 H W
Week 17 Minn Total Net Yards 444 A L

Total avg 347

That is 15th overall. But in the important category they were 2-4. 1-1 Home 1-3 Away
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beast
11 years ago
If the Refs didn't screw the Packers in the Seahawks game it would be...

Week 1 SFran Total Net Yards 377 H L
Week 3 Seattle Total Net Yards 238 A W
Week 5 Indy Total Net Yards 464 A L
Week 6 Houston Total Net Yards 321 A W
Week 13 Minn Net Yards Rushing 240 H W
Week 17 Minn Total Net Yards 444 A L

Total avg 347

That is 15th overall. But in the important category they were 3-3. 1-1 Home 2-2 Away

Originally Posted by: wpr 




Also it wasn't just that last play (thought the pass off on shields was a major missed called)

With 8:44 left in the game, Wilson threw an INT, and they called roughing the passer on Walden for what looked like a legal tackle. They said he tackle Wilson too low (I think it's illegal to hit QBs at the knee or below) but looks like Walden hit/grabbed a thigh which is above the knee.

It should of been Packers ball at the Seahawks (about) 25 yard line.

Packers got screwed with a couple of calls in the finish of that game.


And the Packers screwed themselve in the second half of the Colts game... but at least the Packers earn that loss by playing worse... and the Colts players earned the win by playing better... the Seahawks didn't earn that win.
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If the Refs didn't screw the Packers in the Seahawks game it would be...




Also it wasn't just that last play (thought the pass off on shields was a major missed called)

With 8:44 left in the game, Wilson threw an INT, and they called roughing the passer on Walden for what looked like a legal tackle. They said he tackle Wilson too low (I think it's illegal to hit QBs at the knee or below) but looks like Walden hit/grabbed a thigh which is above the knee.

It should of been Packers ball at the Seahawks (about) 25 yard line.

Packers got screwed with a couple of calls in the finish of that game.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Yes I am aware of it. Nevertheless I have to use the real stats when discussing Zero's question/comment. It doesn't matter whether or not that GB got jobbed.

That said 3-3 is still nothing to brag about. All that means is they were mediocre against good teams. If you deduct 25 yards off the total their total defensive average is still 343 per game and still 15th place.
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11 years ago

Yes I am aware of it. Nevertheless I have to use the real stats when discussing Zero's question/comment. It doesn't matter whether or not that GB got jobbed.

That said 3-3 is still nothing to brag about. All that means is they were mediocre against good teams. If you deduct 25 yards off the total their total defensive average is still 343 per game and still 15th place.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I know everyone here is probably aware at that... and I wasn't going after you... and didn't mean to make it seem like that. I was just venting about that game.... nothing against you or your stats... just feel like there always needs to be an "*" next to that game and the W/L to it.

As far as real... the Packers getting screwed in that game was real. And everyone here (I think) knows it. Again just venting in general... nothing against what you're saying.

And 3-3 is better than most teams (which I think better than most teams) is something to brag about though I know we all have our different standards. Or at least better than the rest of the NFC North. I know that's nothing worth bragging about to some of the others on here.

And I know "should of" means nothings.... actually it does mean something... it makes it worse.

... but the Packers should of been 5-1 against those teams.

Packers lost to the 49ers.
Packers got screwed by the refs against the Seahawks
Packers screwed themselves in the second half of the Colts game.
And they shouldn't of lost to the Vikings in week 17.


Also if they would have beat the Vikings in week 17, I think the Bears would of made the playoffs instead... and Lovie Smith might still be with the Bears. And personally I liked Lovie and company not being able to figure out what they should do on offense [grin1]
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... but the Packers should of been 5-1 against those teams.

Packers lost to the 49ers.
Packers got screwed by the refs against the Seahawks
Packers screwed themselves in the second half of the Colts game.
And they shouldn't of lost to the Vikings in week 17.


Also if they would have beat the Vikings in week 17, I think the Bears would of made the playoffs instead... and Lovie Smith might still be with the Bears. And personally I liked Lovie and company not being able to figure out what they should do on offense [grin1]

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agreed.
if the bares made the playoffs: 1 more win & 168 yards and 190 vs 240 & 444. Would have made a difference. (In the stats anyhow. They still would have been thumped by SF.)
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