Packers ready to part ways with ILB Desmond Bishop· Page 3

Laser Gunns
Senior Member

11 years ago

The timing makes no sense...

If his injury was not healing up to par, he would have been cut along with DJ Smith for failing a physical.

If it is money... Why? We are under cap now, there is no reason to make a move for the sake of saving cash at the expense of losing a starting ILB... Unless Ted is making room for an extension on another player.

The extension must already be on the table too, because with Pickett's contract coming off after this season, there would be more room to handle it at the end of the season.

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play2win
Senior Member

11 years ago

#22

Originally Posted by: RajiRoar

Raji.

beast
Select Member

11 years ago

#23

I think it's simply scheme change and Jones stepping up. Packers changed up their scheme last year asking the ILB to do more sideline to sideline stuff and Bishop lack speed to start with and then injuries... and they like Hawk and Jones a lot more than the public does. And in the old scheme Hawk like Pickett did a lot of dirty work to set up other guys to make plays by taking on blocks and doing other things. Then gets 3 sacks in his first season in the changed scheme.

Also I think it's been said they're trying to get him to take a reduced deal. So maybe he'll stick around if he agrees to a reduced deal like Hawk did.

But they got a number of guys going to be FAs this upcoming FA

Raji, Pickett, Burnett, D-Smith, Shields, Neal, Wilson, Starks, James Jones?

Raji, Burnett, Shields and D-Smith are probably locks to get new deals with the Packers. And maybe Neal too.

DoddPower
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#24

If it is money... Why? We are under cap now, there is no reason to make a move for the sake of saving cash at the expense of losing a starting ILB... Unless Ted is making room for an extension on another player.

Originally Posted by: RajiRoar

I'm assuming this is the reason, whether it's for Raji, Sheilds (can he ever be resigned this season?), Burnett, Neal, Bulaga, or some other player that Ted hopes to extend.

DoddPower
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#25

Originally Posted by: beast

I really only seem to hear about this change of scheme for the LB's from your posts. Is there some other discussion regarding this that I can read about? I suppose I don't feel as confident about the statements are you do.

nerdmann
Premier Member

11 years ago

#26

Maybe they just don't think he's very good.

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steveishere
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#27

It doesn't make much sense for all their talk of wanting to get more physical

wpr
Preferred Member

11 years ago

#28

Maybe they just don't think he's very good.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

wow. is that why? I never would have guessed that they would release a player if they thought he was very good. [grin1]

Obviously it is the amount of money he is being paid verses what they view is his skill level.

nerdmann
Premier Member

11 years ago

#29

Originally Posted by: wpr

Could just be the injury. Could just be a numbers game. Could be an off-field issue.

We don't know.

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wpr
Preferred Member

11 years ago

#30

Could just be the injury. Could just be a numbers game. Could be an off-field issue.

We don't know.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I was just messing with you.

However:
An injury factor relates directly to the team not thinking he is very good.

If they thought he was very good there would not be a numbers issue nor would they ask for him to redo his pay.

There have been other players with off field issues. They were reported in the media. Nothing on Bishop. Other players off field issues did not merit a request for a reduction in pay nor an out right release. (Even Jolly was not released.)

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