Zero2Cool
12 years ago

Benson has fumbled 12 times the last 2 seasons. That seems like a lot to me.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Considering someone said James Starks has a fumbling problem and fumbled only twice, losing one in his NFL career, I'd have to agree.
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zombieslayer
12 years ago

Benson has fumbled 12 times the last 2 seasons. That seems like a lot to me.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Yikes. I wonder what 🇹🇹 sees in him then. I remember the Packers loving Green DESPITE his fumbling problem because Green actually produced yards and TDs and was a heck of a receiver. But Benson doesn't get that many yards nor TDs.
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Pack93z
12 years ago
We can ask all day long on the whys.. but we probably will never know what conversations took place with Grant and his agent.. or those compared to Benson and his representation.

We are only looking at one side of the puzzle.. and to be honest even then unfairly due to the vastly different situations Grant was in from Benson in terms of talent and type of offense surrounding them.

Add to it.. the Cinncy plays in much more traditional style division in the AFC North.. probably the most physical brand of football in the game today. Ravens and Steelers play a brand of football on defense different than most teams..


Anyway.. I would guess there was a economic factor in play here.. that and maybe question marks surrounding the physical aspect of our running game in Kuhn. Maybe.. just maybe it isn't a feature back role that Packers have in mind for Benson.. maybe it is more in the lines of a Kuhn type short yardage type role.. a jack of all trades type role.

Shorter more compact back in Benson (5'11" 227) verses the more vertical Grant (6'1" 222).. brings a bit more pop behind the pads so to speak.

I am grabbing at straws here because I wasn't privy to any of the discussions around this decision.


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Pack93z
12 years ago
I think we may have found our answer.. I would be willing to bet not many veterans would take such a deal. Not unless they really wanted to play for a chance at a ring or desperate for cash.


Green Bay  - Despite coming off a third straight 1,000-yard rushing season, new Green Bay Packers running back Cedric Benson will be treated contractually just like another rookie free agent if he ends up on injured reserve.

As reported previously, Benson's one-year contract with the Packers contains no bonus money and a veteran's minimum base salary of $825,000. Because of the minimum salary benefit, he will count just $540,000 against the salary cap.

However, if Benson doesn't hold up and lands on injured reserve, his base will plummet from $825,000 to $393,000.


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nerdmann
12 years ago

Yikes. I wonder what 🇹🇹 sees in him then. I remember the Packers loving Green DESPITE his fumbling problem because Green actually produced yards and TDs and was a heck of a receiver. But Benson doesn't get that many yards nor TDs.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



Someone who can pass pro.

Which btw, is something at which Grant never excelled.
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zombieslayer
12 years ago

I think we may have found our answer.. I would be willing to bet not many veterans would take such a deal. Not unless they really wanted to play for a chance at a ring or desperate for cash.


Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



I think we found the winner here. I think it was all about $$$ and if so, I have no problem with that. I've already repeatedly said that RB is one of the least important positions and I'd rather see the $$$ spent elsewhere.

I don't know Uncle 🇹🇹 personally, but I'm willing to bet he feels this way.

I do too think that what Nerd said has some truth to it. Grant wasn't known for his blocking and supposedly, Benson can block.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago
Why are to think/assume Ryan Grant wouldn't take/accept such a deal? I'm not saying he would, I just ... well ... I'm lost on why Benson over Grant, lol.
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doddpower
12 years ago
Well, perhaps we can sign this Demp's kid. I would take a silver medal track star who is also likely the fastest person in the NFL on the Packers, wouldn't you?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/14/olympics-over-jeff-demps-wants-to-play-in-the-nfl/ 
Pack93z
12 years ago

Well, perhaps we can sign this Demp's kid. I would take a silver medal track star who is also likely the fastest person in the NFL on the Packers, wouldn't you?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/14/olympics-over-jeff-demps-wants-to-play-in-the-nfl/ 

Originally Posted by: doddpower 



Thought the same thing.. lol.

http://www.packershome.com/forum.aspx?g=posts&t=14852 
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago
Ugh! I hope its still for others, cuz it was a pain in the ass uploading that to YouTube. It took three freaking hours for each video!
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