Zero2Cool
12 years ago
I think if Johnny Jolly is reinstated, and if those salary numbers are correct of $2.5 million, the Packers would release him outright rather than risk paying that amount. Unless they can give him a looksie during Training Camp without costing anything ... I think that would happen and if they decided he has value, restructure his contract if necessary.
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Since69
12 years ago

By the way.. If he is under contract should this not be in the Packer Forum?

Originally Posted by: RaiderPride 



Well, that's where I put it...
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DakotaT
12 years ago
I still feel bad about how Jolly was jetisoned back to Houston by the NFL and not allowed to stay in Green Bay for the help he needed with his addiction and would have received. That said, it would take him a long time to get back into football shape, and would the Packers make the investment? Athletic 300lbers don't grown on trees, and Jolly would have really helped last year.

Maybe we could PUP him and work him back into shape?
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TexasPackerFan
12 years ago
I don't see the Packers taking him back if he's allowed to play again. Too much risk involved and I think the stress from trying to get back into the NFL will lead him right back to using and eventually getting busted again. I hope I'm wrong cause he was a pretty damn good player but off the field he couldn't get it together.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

I still feel bad about how Jolly was jetisoned back to Houston by the NFL and not allowed to stay in Green Bay for the help he needed with his addiction and would have received. That said, it would take him a long time to get back into football shape, and would the Packers make the investment? Athletic 300lbers don't grown on trees, and Jolly would have really helped last year.

Maybe we could PUP him and work him back into shape?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



The NFL didn't force him to Houston, he made that choice. He could have stayed in Green Bay. He just wasn't allowed to participate with the organization.
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DakotaT
12 years ago

The NFL didn't force him to Houston, he made that choice. He could have stayed in Green Bay. He just wasn't allowed to participate with the organization.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



So how was the organization suppose to help him? I get what you're saying though, he chose to go back to the ghetto and hang with his boys.


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dfosterf
12 years ago
How the friggin' hell did my name get dragged into this shit.

Jolly done in GB, probably NFL, also, we'll see. We retain his rights. Idiot pisses me off, they usually do. I liked his play, never want him back.
Zero2Cool
12 years ago

So how was the organization suppose to help him? I get what you're saying though, he chose to go back to the ghetto and hang with his boys.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I agree with you that the NFL should allow teams to help their player, after all every player is an investment of some sort. Perhaps if the Packers could have enrolled him in some structured classes or something, it would have been different. Aaron Rodgers said it was wrong of the NFL to take Jolly away from his support system, and he's right. When Edgar Bennett first came to the Packers as a non-player, his first assignment was to keep a certain player out of trouble. I forget whom it was. Teams should be allowed to do that. Assign a representative from the team to help guide a troubled player.

I heard Johnny Jolly say that he started codeine after his shoulder injury in 2009, but then I just read a quote of his saying he's had the addiction from high school.



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DakotaT
12 years ago
Well Jolly certainly shirked all of his responsibility with addiction from the beginning, like most do. It wasn't until he was at the end of his rope that he finally came around and new he needed help. It would be a very good story if we stuck with him and he made it back to the field, but I think a lot of Packer fans have already written him off. I'd be pulling for him though. There isn't anything better in our country than when a person with 2.5 strikes against him makes it. Deep down, we all root for that kind of thing.
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Pack93z
12 years ago

I don't see the Packers taking him back if he's allowed to play again. Too much risk involved and I think the stress from trying to get back into the NFL will lead him right back to using and eventually getting busted again. I hope I'm wrong cause he was a pretty damn good player but off the field he couldn't get it together.

Originally Posted by: TexasPackerFan 




Really what is the overall risk?

He signed a one year contract with no guarantees, so if he screws up or can't play to the level they need him to, then you can simply cut him and walk away.

But if the kid can still play and he can play even close to the level he once did, 2.5 for a year is a bargain of a contract. Remember this kid may have been the best Dlineman we had.

That said.. his biggest hurdle next is two fold.. one the NFL letting him back in (the viewpoint used elsewhere (Vick, Stallworth) is that they served their time and paid there debt to society).

The second hurdle may be tougher... the courts allowing him flexibility in his probation.

I think the odds a slim he plays ball again.

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